Theists... what's your argument for God existing?

Question

What argument do you have that, to you, undeniably and evidentially shows that God exists?

That isn't from this:

http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/GodProof.htm

Answer 1

It's crazy for me to hear people that all they need or have is "faith" as the core of belief.

You can say the same thing about my little son - he believes in Santa Claus - he has "faith" that Santa is real and will reward him for being a good boy, and punish him for being bad. But any reasonable person knows that Santa Clause does not really exist (except for within the little children who don't know any better, or haven't been told the truth).

It really is pointless to ask theists for evidence of God, or actually any other religious person who believes in a god or gods. To them the gods are as real as the air we breath - their delusion has been with them since they were taught as children to have "faith"

It is sad for all those people (to see them in their delusion), but eventually god will go away. Just like the idea that the Earth was flat and was the center of the universe (the church taught this a long time ago).

Science will continue to poke holes in religion - it's already swiss cheese now! Haha!

Answer 2

it quite is straightforward metaphysics that each and every physique consequences require motives. If the cosmos exists, it could have had a reason. the huge Bang is an result, not a reason, by using fact, without a reason, the scenario that replaced into the singularity that produced the huge Bang could have remained consistent. provided that time starts off with the huge Bang, some thing exterior of time (some thing eternal) had to be the reason. you are able to call that reason despite you %--some people % to call it G-d, however the be conscious is in simple terms a signifier of that which it shows. The call (or signifier) isn't important--it quite is in simple terms the signified that quite counts. the reality which you won't be able to opt for G-d yet can purely infer G-d's life is an epistemological issue, not an ontological issue. keep in mind: loss of epistemic info the G-d exists isn't logical info that G-d does not exist. Grace be unto you and peace.

Answer 3

This will always be a circular question/argument.

You ask evidence in something based on the laws of man (yes, I put the laws of science in that group too).

Two problems. God (whether you believe or not) falls outside of that realm. It would be like using the Internal Revenue Code to prove the laws of gravity - you're not going to have a plausible answer.

However, absence of proof is not proof of absence. The proof you want comes from a series of measurements and assumptions based on things that are around us. Just like in my example, the IRC and gravity both exist although one cannot prove the other.

Second, the laws and theories mankind uses are weak evidence as best. No matter how many laws we might think to prove, we're telling that to ourselves. There has not been an independent source (say aliens, and yes I'm serious) to back up our assumptions. Had that occurred and said e.t. life arguing for the same existence, then maybe all of it would get more credibility.

Whenever I begin to doubt that God was the creator of all, I think about odd things, the color red for example. Sure, you can tell me that we both see the same color red and that it has a certain frequency on the electromagnetic spectrum.....but no human can really answer to me 'why' it needed to be red.

Answer 4

As a theist you have to deny my existence. You have to close your eyes and say out loud that theists do not exist. then imagine all the church's disappearing all over the earth. Imagine all human history with coloniziation and exploring disappearing all over the eatth. Imagine all religions disappearing all over the earth. Imagine history books being rewritten without men believing in God not being in them. No mention of God in any government or public or educational building.

My argument for God's existence is that he created man to live on this earth. And men like me recognize this God and love and worship him in the things we do and say while living on this earth.

Without theists, where else would the idea of God ever come into a serous and intellectual discussion? When an atheist or agnostic debate about one? When?

Answer 5

You know, I really don't think I have one, probably because I don't feel any strong motivation to force my "beliefs" on another person. Let me explain.

My favorite life activities include (but not limited to) "serious" gardening (I can grow a year's supply of vegetables for us) and wilderness canoeing and exploration. For me, a "spiritual" moment is working in the soil - tilling, seeding, weeding, tending, harvesting - or out paddling, enjoying the pristine beauty of the Earth.

Basically, I cannot conceive that all the beauty I enjoy is just a matter of chance. I prefer to believe that there is some very wonderful, powerful entity behind it all.

I do not spend time in any conventional construct like prayer. If He is present, he knows my thoughts and knows that I am delighted and grateful. He knows that in my heart, I extend to all men a measure of sympathy and benevolence, and do my best to treat them as I would prefer to be treated.

My "relationship" with God is both a simple thing and a very intimate thing. It is not something that I parade about like a medal or a crown.

That's about the best I can give ya for now...

Answer 6

Instead of asking that question, you should ask: what undeniable argument shows that *you* exist?

Many times I dream about things that I *know* are really there - I even dream that I *know* that I am not dreaming :). But am I?

Once you realize that "reality" itself is beyond "knowing", the sorts of questions change to what really matters: why am I here? what should i do now? what is a "good" life? All the sorts of "spiritual" stuff that makes me want to grab a snack and watch football.

Answer 7

I am just commenting on Happy Theists post:

currently no one can prove or disprove the existance of God. but the point here is that those who DO believe in a certain God have detailed rules and doctorines laid out based on their particular faith (or just what they think in their head). ...the point is... WHY do you believe in that? the asker of this question is trying to get you to think about why are you following these doctorines, thinking and acting the way you do? Why are you doing this based on something you cannot even begin to have make sense or prove.

pretty much isnt EVERYTHING about your particular religion a little wierd sounding to you? Why do you believe in it then if you know it aint right?

free your mind and join the rest of society.

Answer 8

Can't really prove that God does exist but I can tell you some of the reasons my belief is so strong.... in the Quran there are things that were scientifically proven much later on. People can say were coincidences but what is the probability of guessing everything right at random? The Quran even says that all life on earth came from water which I just learned last semester from evolution class.......

Answer 9

I'm sorry, but if you can't see the evidence around you, there is nothing I can say that would convince you.
On the other hand, if you are seriously looking for answers, I would recommend the book "Mere Christianity" by C.S. Lewis. He is a christian philospoher who argues for the existence of God, and even for the truth of the Christian message, from a phiilosophical viewpoint. Very interesting.

Answer 10

Impossibility of Abiogenesis.

Cambrian explosion - and subsequent "explosions".

Lack of transitional fossils. Should be huge amounts if evolution were true.

"Convergent Evolution" (impossible in most cases)

Complex symbiotic relationships that exist in ways that can't account for random chance.

Healings and miracles; dead raised, lame walk, blind see, cancer healed, etc...

Unexplained spiritual phenomena recognized in every culture and even on some of our own TV programs.

End time prophecies now lining up. Return of Jews to Israel, the exact naming of the nations currently against them. Way more than chance would allow considering they are 2600 year old prophecies.

The testimony of Atheists and Agnostics who have died and been revived and seen hell.

People who are miraculously changed, ie drug addicts, insane, alcoholics, etc...

The power of prayer to change people and circumstances.

The uncanny wisdom of the teachings of Jesus to cure most of the world's problems. I don't believe man could have had the insight to invent these.

Most important, I have felt God, experienced the Spirit of God, had my personal prayers answered, and seen miracles in my own life.