Isn't it cute how the Muslims here answer ex-Muslims by making believe we don't exist?

Question

I see myself and at least three other ex-Muslims here so far and we always get the same answers, that we're lying.

I never told a converted Muslim here "I don't believe you."

Isn't it annoying? Isn't it childish? Isn't it living in denial?

As a note to Isadora, since you were so offended by my Saudi question, and copy-pasted it everywhere, I had it deleted.

Very funny Fundamentalist Christian. You're not fooling anyone.

It won't. See, I'm neither an ex-Muslim who knows nothing about Islam nor a fake ex-Muslim. Believe it or not, I'm a Muslim who was born and brought up a 'true' religious Muslim for many years who, in time, chose not to believe Islam.
Thank you for acknowledging my existence. That knocks one point off your stupidity rating.

Wow, Sunflower. That's a good answer...The FIRST good answer I've had from a Muslim in a long time...Thanks. :-)

"its non-of ur busines so keep ur nose out it just live ur life and u have no reason to tll others that there religion is false ;)"

I'm an ex-Muslim. Therefore, this question is my business. How can you say it's not my business when leaving Islam is literally a matter of life and death? ;) right back to ya. :P

And even if I do "keep my nose out of it," does that make it right?

"i was not offended by ur question..i excpected u do do that and more than that.. visit the pal talk chat.. u will find all what u need
it was u who disgusts me .. and this is not a chat room to argue with u, u wanted the proof that some ex-muslims lie and i gave u one in the saudi arabi question .. don't try to act smart with me.. my IQ which u insulted in ur previous question is high enough to defend my religion with pure evidences ..ARE WE DONE NOW?"

Judging by the number of insults you threw at me, you must have been offended. Do I really disgust you? Rest assured that the feeling is mutual. This is a site for answers and questions, and also for reactions to answers, so I don't see why I can't argue with you. If I can't do it here, we'll do it somewhere else, because I won't let you get away with distorting the truth and getting people to believe lies about me.

Please notice that out of respect for your feelings I extended a courtesy, and you responded by saying I disgust you. You really need to be more civil. You can't blame me for reporting you earlier. Sometimes all you just utter hateful venom. I wasn't going to tolerate you calling ex-Muslim a disgusting son of a b-itch Zionist pig, and I see no good reason why I should.

Now...About the Saudi question. You're right about anal sex being forbidden in Islam, but just because that person was wrong about their claim, doesn't mean they're lying about being an ex-Muslim. Daysleepernightcreeper is an American Muslim convert, and when she said Shariah is based on culture and not Islam, I corrected her, but that doesn't mean she's lying about being a convert, and I didn't accuse her of lying.

This person http://answers.yahoo.com/my/profile;_ylt=Asw2bMRb13xtfubLEjqwH3wezKIX?show=AA10428095 is a real ex-Muslim because if you go over his answers and questions, you'll see he's well acquainted with Iraq and Islam. Likewise, I see no reason to disbelieve this person's claim to be an ex-Muslim. http://answers.yahoo.com/my/profile;_ylt=AllhZU6raHr3t5oUTbFMdOcezKIX?show=3c6dab02132f32cedf3292e18c54b355aa Remember that we're in an on-line community and it's foolish to call people fake because there's really no way to be sure of anything here. If someone here says they're a Muslim convert, I'll believe them because I have no other choice. Likewise, if someone says they're an ex-Muslim, I should believe them, unless they make it absolutely clear that it's impossible that they could have left Islam, which is rare.

I don't try to act smart with anyone. I'm just being myself. I'm defending myself and expressing my opinions like anyone else would. But I do believe I do it in an intelligent way.
Well now, if your IQ is high enough to defend your religion, you shouldn't have any trouble debunking everything I say. :-)

As a final note I would really appreciate it if you started to show some basic respect for me like I'm doing now. If you keep cursing me like a child, I can simply report your answer. But I won't even do that, I'll just stop talking to you.

Have a nice day.

I don't try to act smart with anyone. I'm just being myself. I'm defending myself and expressing my opinions like anyone else would. But I do believe I do it in an intelligent way.
Well now, if your IQ is high enough to defend your religion, you shouldn't have any trouble debunking everything I say. :-)

As a final note I would really appreciate it if you started to show some basic respect for me like I'm doing now. If you keep cursing me like a child, I can simply report your answer. But I won't even do that, I'll just stop talking to you.

Have a nice day.

Be assured, Isadora, that this isn't some teenage "phase" like you think it is. It's permanent. I'm an ex-Muslim, and I'm going to stay that way for life. There is nothing you can say to make me go back, so focus on proving me wrong instead.

Likewise, I don't "misunderstand" the Koran or the Sonah. As proof, I usually back up my claims with an Islamic site where people knowledgeable in both the Koran and the Sonah have placed their opinions.
It's good that you read the Bible. But of course, you read it not to understand it, but to find errors, because you believe it's been corrupted, so don't blame me when I read the Koran for the same reason.
ABD EL WAHAB EL MISERY is not a good reference for Jews and Zionism. Muslims are very anti-Semitic. The Koran is very anti-Semitic. If you want to learn about Jews/Zionists, the best way to do that is to meet one. If I want to learn about Islam, I talk to Muslims. If I want to learn about the piano, I don't ask a guitarist. But I don't think

that, living in Egypt, you've ever met a Jew in your life, like me. Islam will fill your head with all kinds of crazy accusations and conspiracy theories about the Jews. You want to believe them, fine.
Now, about the hadith...You say 50% are wrong. I've never seen that ratio before, but I agree with you that some hadith are clearly forgeries that can't be trusted. However, many nonsensical hadith are also authentic (saheeh), like the ones you'll find in Bukhari, and I usually use those ones. Bukhari is the most accepted collection in all the Sonah. http://www.theclearpath.com/viewtopic.php?t=6

"i will respect u if u started to respect our feelings, and stoped calling us idiots whan we defend our religion, i can argue with u , i have the power to do that, but will it be a constructive argument?
i doubt so"

Sure. I'll stop insulting you if you stop insulting me, and honor our agreement. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, Isadora, but it doesn't logically follow that everyone's opinion is entitled to the same attention or respect. If you defend your religion well, I'll pay attention to you and respect you. Very few Muslims have done that so far. But if you use circular reasoning, irrelevant facts, unidentified sources, predictable cliches like "Islam is the fastest growing religion," play the victim game ("Islamophobia"), or use PERSONAL ATTACKS, then I can and will defend myself.

"and about the ex- shite friend of you he is also liar, i knew that from previous questions , shites misinterpret the islam , i will tell u funny things about them, if was shite , iwould rather converted to be a jewish better"

See, opinions like that are responsible for the civil war in Iraq. Not Americans or Jews killing anyone, but Shias and Sunnis slaughtering each other like fleas, by the thousands. You obviously don't have a high opinion of the Shia, and they don't have a high opinion of you. Can we give it a rest already? All major religions are divided. Christianity has 7,000 sects. Islam has 700. Shia, Sunni, Ahmadi, Bahai, Druze, etc. Although the Bahais are no longer accepted as Muslims and have been persecuted to this day.

You say you don't insult other religions, then you say you'd rather be a Jew than a Shia because you don't like Shias. That's religious racism. Even if you do bash Jews, though, I don't blame you. It's nothing personal, you've probably never met a Jew in your life. You're just following the Koran and Sonah, the two most anti-Semitic writings on Earth after Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf. So go ahead...Bash Jews if you want.

Answer 1

Muslims cannot accept the fact that there are thousands and thousands of muslims leaving islam today.

If they do, they will have to start asking...WHY DID THEY LEAVE?

This is a question they cannot allow in their heads because the moment, that goes in, they will start questioning allah & muhammad. And that is BAD to islam.

The other thing is, by admitting that you were a legitimate muslim, they are acknowledging that islamists are leaving islam or that there are good reasons to leave islam. Such FACTS are unaccpetable to them.

Rather than see islam thrown out the window, they'll just reject you as a candidate for legitimate discussion.

Answer 2

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Answer 3

I'm a Muslim and i know there are people who are ex Muslims, there is no denying it. There are just plenty of people here who clearly know nothing of Islam just trying to spread hate and propaganda posing as ex Muslims. There is ex everything in this world, ex christian, ex catholic, ex Hindu etc etc etc You definitely exist. And your definitely alive. When is your whinging and moaning going to end.

I said there are ex Muslims and people posing as ex Muslims (who clearly know nothing) that's how you can tell they are fake....
Learn to read properly would you, it gets tiring repeating myself.

"right back to ya" "for crying out loud" not terms that Egyptians use. You don't sound in the slightest bit Egyptian, either in your grammar or writing. Have you lived in Egypt all your life? Are you living there now? If so why don't you write some things in Arabic anything not quotes, something just from you.
Like today i went shopping and bought some apples.......
Surely you are fluent in Arabic being an Egyptian raised all there life as a Muslim and still posing as one as "its too dangerous" for you to expose your true religious feelings. Don't quote the Quran just type me something that's like a question an observation an insult anything you like.

"sonah" don't you mean Sunnah? Surely every Muslim know that. It is Arabic after all. How could you miss spell it three times?

Answer 4

why do you care so much? Because i don't. but i believe you, just don't understand why you still have Islam in your life if you left it, why still engage yourself in it. i left a religion, but i don't go back to those belivers and announce over and over again, that's when you motives and heart began to be questioned.

Answer 5

its non-of ur busines so keep ur nose out it just live ur life and u have no reason to tll others that there religion is false ;)

Answer 6

I suppose Muslims regard ex Muslims as people condemned to death, which is how Islam considers ex Muslims.

Answer 7

I know there are many ex muslim but in islam they willnot accept that to the point they have to kill a brother if he leaves the faith and I am sure you know the referance better than me. I was never muslim but was put under presure to convert and have helped muslims see the truth of their so called faith.

Answer 8

we are not saying there aren't any ex-muslims.but the ones on yahoo answers(most of them) are fake.and just lil hate mongers

Answer 9

some people have very closed minds and are unwilling to think that there is an alternative. too bad, but that's life.

Answer 10

I know how you feel. Wiccans don't believe I'm an ex-Wiccan.