do you think floyd landis really doped?

Question

if so provide the bases that ur basing ur opinion on. if u think he's innocent also provide the bases for ur answer. thanks

Answer 1

I do not know what Floyd did, but it would seem very unlikely that he did use artificial testosterone.
Why do I believe this?
1. He did not test for a high testosterone level. He tested for an apparent low epitestosterone level. So if he was doping then he was doing a bad job of it.
3. The A and B samples seem to be wildly inconsistent in what they show.
4. The markers used to show he was positive for artificial testosterone only show up in part of the sample. Shouldn't the markers appear through-out the sample? Maybe someone else can explain that.
2. Landis was urine sampled after stages 11, 12, 15, 19 and 20 when holding yellow, and 17 for the win. He was a random selection with blood and urine after stage 9 and stage 19. Why is this the only time he tested positive? WADA and the lab won't release the data for tests on samples before and after stage 17. Additionally they will not release information about whether the lab is competent to perform the tests in question (they claim that this information is not relevant).
3. WADA (the world anti doping assoc) is run by a totalitarian buffoon. He has done nothing to earn my trust. He has created a system where his organization is the police, testing lab, judge, and jury. Does that sound reasonable?

The real disappointment is that the system is so one-sided in favor of the authorities that you can't trust anything that they say. I want them to be honorable. I want to know that a guy cheated when he is caught. This ambiguity is unacceptable. Floyd could lose his job over this. And these jerks at WADA can only come up with glib remarks about Floyd's trustworthiness and how whacked out on roids he must be.
So I chose to trust Floyd because he strikes me as more honorable than WADA.
That just sucks.

Answer 2

NO WAY! For many reasons:

1. His supposed T/E ratio was 11 times higher than normal. ELEVEN TIMES!

2. Such elevated levels would suggest he doped HEAVILY the night before the mountain stage. Why would a pro cyclist use THE MOST EASILY FOUND SUBSTANCE IN SPORT if he KNEW he would be tested afterwards?

3. Testosterone is a HORMONE. Hormones do not "go away" in 24 hours and if Landis DID have that high of a testosterone level it would still be present when he was tested the next day.

4. The French lab that did the "testing" admitted that there was an "issue with labeling the samples" but that they were SURE landis doped. This is the same lab that tried to nail Lance Armstrong 147 times (21 stages x 7 Tour wins) during the Tour without success, so their ethics are definitely questionable.

5. The media was "leaked" information about Landis' alleged doping before Tour rules allowed. Dick Pound, the president of WADA, sees no problem with that and is still on a personal mission to see Landis stripped of the Tour title and banned from the sport before the investigation is concluded. Why would someone that allegedly stands for fair sport be so biased?

6. Professional athletes have the most advanced forms of doping ever created. Are they the only ones in the world with the power to alter test results in their favor? How annoyed must the French be for not winning their own race in over two decades (Bernard Hinault, 1985)? What would WE do if a French team won the Super Bowl eight years running?

It simply makes no sense, biologically OR logically. There is more for the French to gain in lambasting an American rider than allowing real justice.

Answer 3

No, I think he's clean. First of all, the French lab doing the testing has had credibility problems in the past and has already admitted to a "clerical error" regarding Floyd's sample. Second of all, how could he test positive one day and be clean every other day? If his T/E ratio was that far out of whack, there's no way the tests from the day before or after would be negative. Also, he knows the winner of every stage is tested along with random other riders, so why would he ride his heart out to win, knowing he would be tested at the end of the day? Additionally, a Spanish rider was acquitted of doping charges recently beacuse of "testing irregularities". His test were done by the same lab doing Floyd's tests.

Answer 4

NO WAY! He was not an Amish loser either (you're fired!)

In High school he used to go to school and then come home an work till 10 at night - THEN GO FOR A 4 HOUR RIDE TILL 2 IN THE MORNING WITH NO LIGHTS on a regular basis.

His VO2 max was right up there with the best in the world.
He can sustain 450 watts for an hour or more and could back in 1998 also when he was a MT biker.

His eyes were on the prize, baby.

Strong - dedicated...wholesome

Answer 5

it was one thing to have elivated testosterone - it another for it to be synthetic!!!

It could be a tampered sample - the experts say this chemical would have had to been in his system for a while for it to be this high - he was tested before and they didn't find it...hmm

I think we'll never know - but, then he DID acknowlege the fact that he seemed to know his level would be high.

My wife got along with him and his sister has the same name as my wife. That was two years ago though... He wanted the win BADLY!

Answer 6

Yes. They all are. This year, instead of sweating the tour de france, I will watch sanford and son reruns.

Answer 7

I don't know, but I do know that when it comes to bike racing, organizing, and governing, the French SUCK!

Answer 8

Of course he did, theres no way an Amish loser could suddenly become such a good cyclist in 24 hours!

Answer 9

No, but there is room for divergence of opinion.