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ok: i believe in creation. not evolution. because evolution can't be possible, because monkey+monkey= monkey. there has to be this - monkey+human= monkey/human and so on. so it just doesn't make sense. can anyone tell me why people are evolutionists? it just doesn't seem like it's based on any stable facts.

might i add that i'm just 12, so please don't be insultive or anything. i just want to know how people think evolution would be true.

God made man. let me just say none of you are going to change my mind on that. i just want to see your facts ( with your stable reasons to support the facts), and please, NO insults. :] thanks.

also... i asked why, not when can i find out why... sorry...

go Kya K! ( she's one of my best friends...)

just to see what your reasoning is, is why i'm asking. i want to see why you think it is this way.... i'm sorry if i seem insultive, i just want to know...

could anyone give me a website on exactly what evolutionism is stated on, so i don't get anything wrong? i just like knowing about other people's beliefs... i'm sorry

Answer 1

honey you are blessed that at your young age you have found the truth....keep growing in the things of God and you will be OK....those who say you are closed minded and blind don't understand ...pay them no mind ...follow Jesus

Answer 2

"ok: i believe in creation. not evolution. because evolution can't be possible, because monkey+monkey= monkey. there has to be this - monkey+human= monkey/human and so on. so it just doesn't make sense"

Basically, what you said doesn't make sense. The reason that you don't think it makes sense is because you don't understand what evolution is. When you get to high-school biology they'll teach you a bit about it (hopefully with an unbiased tone) and you'll hopefully understand it a bit better.

Nowhere does it say that monkey+monkey = human, it doesn't work like that. It happens over several thousand/million generations, not 1.

"can anyone tell me why people are evolutionists? it just doesn't seem like it's based on any stable facts."

There is actually no such thing as an "evolutionist" in the context that you mean. Evolution is a mainstream scientific theory, not a belief shared by only a few. Suggesting that someone puts dogmatic faith/belief in evolution is like saying the same about the theory of relativity or gravity.

The reason people believe evolution theory and the evidence that backs it up is simply that there IS evidence that backs it up. The alternative that you support has no cold hard evidence to back it up, why do you put actual faith in that?

"might i add that i'm just 12, so please don't be insultive or anything. i just want to know how people think evolution would be true."

Congratulations on being 12. I'm not saying it's because you're 12 that you don't understand, but considering the fact that you've so far only had the teachings of your family/religious leaders to go by, it's no wonder you believe it. Considering children believe the majority of what they are told - "if you eat carrots you can see in the dark", I believed that one for years.

"God made man. let me just say none of you are going to change my mind on that. i just want to see your facts ( with your stable reasons to support the facts), and please, NO insults. :] thanks."

Well if that's true, then you have no reason for asking this question except to obtain a reaction, not an answer. If you're going to be so closed minded about things then I think you have no right to request "NO insults", in fact you're asking for them by posting here.

Answer 3

Let me start with a counter question. Are you exactly identical with your mother and father? The answer is no. You have some characteristics of your mother, some of your father and some all your own.
Every generation will have more small changes and from one generation to the next these changes would not be big enough to make the children into a different species from their parents.
If you consider this process looking back in your family the other people of your age descended from your great-great-great-great-grandparents will be very different from each other. Over sufficient generations the addition of these small changes can make your distant relatives very different from you. If sufficiently different it will not be possible to interbred and they will be different species.
It was never a case of monkey + monkey = human. What happens is monkey ancestor + monkey ancestor = slightly more human monkey ancestor or monkey ancestor + monkey ancestor = slightly more monkey monkey ancestor. The two descending lines diverge, probably because geographic separation stopped them interbreeding.
I don't think that anything in most religions says that God could not have created the world to work in this way with humans being the end point of his plan. Normally the religious objections are that evolution offers a mechanism which does not need a God necessarily for it to work and therefore one of the "proofs" of God's existence is no longer valid.

Answer 4

I don't mean to offend but I think it is hard to understand this at 12. But I will try to explain as best as I can. It's hard with words only and much easier with diagrams.

Evolution is not about monkey+monkey = man or anything like that. It is about small scale changes to a species accumulating over the course of millions of years with the end result being at least one (and probably many more) new species.

The reason the new species comes about is because the changes that have been kept over time are the ones that help individual animals survive. Any of the changes that didn't help are discarded from the population through natural selection.

So let's make up a pretend population of some species. Maybe it is a species of snakes. And lets say that one day, there is some geological event that splits this population in half. For simplicity sake, let's say there is now a canyon between to groups of the population and there is no way for them to cross. Now we have two groups of snakes living on either side of the canyon. Each group begins to slowly change as described above. But because they can't cross the canyon both are changing in a different way. After a few million years, both have changed so much that you can't really be certain that the used to be the same.

It is like if two people had half of a story written and then had to write the second half. The story would be different.

Now in evolution, what happened is that over the course of hundreds of millions of years, species changed so much that they look totally different from one another. One class of animals grew legs, another grew wings, some grew hihgly developed brains and so on.

It is really much more complex that this and I am trying to explain it to you in a way that you could understand (being 12 and all). All I can say is that you should keep an open mind when you learn this in school.

I hope this helps.

Answer 5

I think you need to be able to distinguish between evolution not being based on stable facts and you not understanding the premise that it's based on. The two aren't one in the same.

What evolution basically theorizes is that given a species, and a certain amount of genetic variation within the species [from mutation], those individual creatures best suited for their environment at any given point in time are more likely to thrive and pass along their genetic traits to their offspring. Those less suited for their environment are less likely to do this, and could possibly die out, if their characteristics are particularly bad for their environment. The effects of this on a species are very minor, but over enough generations of a species, small changes do add up. (How many changes to a monkey does it take before a monkey is no longer a monkey?)

Most mutation is inherently neutral, but a very minute mutation may gain significance later on, given a change in the environment. (For instance, if somebody has a genetic trait that makes them less susceptible to a certain disease, the trait may not have been useful to them prior to the outbreak of the disease.)

I hope this helps a little bit with your understanding. It's okay not to subscribe to evolution, but I do encourage you to at least read up on it, so you can understand it better. Look at it this way - if you're so opposed to it, you'd be able to argue against it much more effectively if you had more solid grasp of what evolution says.

Answer 6

I'm not even sure where the Monkey concept came from. It can't be DArwin. I can't imagine Darwin said Monkeys or even Primates, which is what it once said.

It's no longer the accepted theory, it's now separate and distinct species.

No one knows for sure how human evolution works, because it works too slowly.

The Catholics and Jews don't have a problem with Darwinism. It doesn't disprove anything in the Bible.

The big problem surrounds the RANDOMISTS and Darwin was not a RANDOMINST per se, because his theory states NATURAL SELECTION, which means a CHOICE

Randomism does not involve a choice. It is gambling. It is LOTTO. It is a cup full of dice and how the land decides it all. Darwin, didn't SAY that was in his theories.

Answer 7

The answers to this are too involved to try to explain in a forum such as this. Do some research on the subject, starting with paying attention in science class.

Not to be rude, but you don't believe evolution as true, simply because you haven't studied it yet. Genetics, astronomy (the big bang), and archeology are all important aspects to evolutionary theory.

Understanding scientific procedure is also important. True science asks a question, does work and research to find answers and evidence, scrutinizes these findings (sending the work to hundreds of other scientists, and then determining the answer. The "scientists" who are trying to prove creation (I'm only using them, because that's what your question is about) start with an answer (god created life), ask a question (how do we prove this), and then only look at information that suits their answer...thus proving it.

Evolution is based on very strong evidence and facts, and it has been proven many times over.

Answer 8

Don't you think it is possible to blend evolution with religion? I will agree with you that it seems highly unlikely that evolution - ape to man, is a bit far-fetched. However, you see evidence of some form of evolution all around you. This world is constantly evolving. Even we, as humans have evolved. Look at how we were in the middle ages - shorter with short lives. Now we are a range of height with long lives. Everything evolves. You need to decide, through information you collect, where you stand on issues.

Answer 9

the deal with evolution is that mutations have changed an ape, from an ape to a human. I mean for example a crab used a certain claw more than the other. and the claw grew stronger and bigger, and then, through millions of years, this claw kept growing, until, all of the organisms had this certain trait. Survival of the fittest. if a crow ate certain foods and needed to have a longer beak to get to it, than the ones that had the smaller beaks would die off while the longer beaked birds would keep alive because they kept eating the foods. therefore this trait of longer beaks was passed on from generation to generation. throughout millions of years of course. which really does happen- small changes due to survialbility in certain animals. But what i dont see is how these small attributes can become big ones.
But thats what evolution is the small process of changing organisms, through millions of years....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
thats a pretty good site, it may be hard to follow but wikipedia has links so if you dont understand something it leads you to other definitions...

Answer 10

I understand that you are only 12, but that's no excuse for ignorance, especially when there are sources of information all around you.

Evolutionists believe that both humans and monkeys evolved from a common ancestor a really, really long time ago. Does that make more sense to you?

Evolution is based upon some really good facts, you just need to research them and draw your own conclusion.

Answer 11

Everything "evolves" to survive. For instance, fish that live in the deepest parts of the ocean developed larger eyes (for more light) and bodies that can withstand the great pressure. While not all primates developed into humans, some did because they developed or discovered special skills (such as using tools), over time this would cause their bodies and minds to adapt to changes. It is very hard to deny the similarities between apes and humans. Evolution is much more believable than some "magic man" in the sky that "made" us. How would the discovery of dinosaur bones be explained? Just by their position in the crust of the earth proves that they existed before man (whose bones are found closer to the surface). The bible makes no mention of dinosaurs. That is the best way I can explain it.