Where in the world does it say anywhere in the bible that...?

Question

Where in the world does it say anywhere in the bible that Christ is equal to God, in fact Christ himself said that the Father was greater than he is at John 14:28
Philipians 2:6 says Christ considered it not in grasp to be on an equality with God. And this is from the greek interlinearbible i am reading from so i know i have the original text. because many bibles render this differently according to wheather they believe in the trinity or not.
It does say that Christ and God are one with eachother but it also says that followers of christ are one with him too so it means that Christ and his father are in agreement and on the same page with eachother (which would make a lot more sense). So where is this idea of the trinity comming from that Christ is equal or the same as God?

Answer 1

Jesus never claims to be God in the Bible. The passage often sited where Jesus says "The lord and I are one," indicates that they are of the same opinion, not that they are the same person.

Answer 2

The Trinity simply means Father, Son (Jesus), Holy Ghost. Now think of a Geometric triangle and connect the three dots, it is now one triangle representing a Team of One.

Also when a man and woman marry they become one....A Team so to speak. In the Holy trinity, the highest ranking in order of their rank is God, Holy Spirit (Jesus mentions in the Bible that the "Father will send someone to comfort us in His absence that is greater than Me".



God and the Prophets are all over the old testament and Jesus is all over the new testament along with the apostles, all who give God the Glory.


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Answer 3

When Jesus said "Before Abraham was born I AM", he was referring to the highest name of God(YHWH) revealed to Moses on Mt. Sinai. The religious people of the time refused to speak it because they considered it too holy.

In the early church one of the first testimonies of the follower of Christ was "Jesus is Lord". Rom. 10:9 The word "Lord" here is Kurios in the Greek which is used to translate the Hebrew word YHWH.

The scripture you use Gal. 2:6 starts with "Who in the form of God" (literal Greek). The word form in Greek is "morphe" which is a very strong word for being similar; from visually to that which is intrinsic and essential.
The following verse states "in the likeness of men having become" the word for likeness here is "homoioma" which would be a weak meaning for similar based on outward looks only.

Jesus was God in form and being but merely resembled a human.

So, Jesus claimed to be God and the early Christians claimed that he was God. Without this divinity, perfection would have been impossible and the "perfect sacrifice" for our sins would not be.

Answer 4

I agree with some of what you say and don't know how to answer short form.
My opinion is I believe in Jesus, the Holy Spirit and God all exist as a separate unity each serving a purpose for the believer.

If all three being a heavenly body beyond mortal comprehension, I sometimes refer to "them" as the trinity.

Answer 5

Cjunk All those scriptures you cited was Jesus saying how much in harmony he was with his Father.
He lived in the heavens for an lawful long time before he came down to earth to give a ransom sacrifice. He can say these things because he knows his Fatrher so perfectly and he is in harmony with his Father.
Genesis 1:26 reads And God went on to say, Let us make man in our image, accoding to ou likeness,
Our image is the key, the Father and Son.

Answer 6

Read John 1
The Word was God

Answer 7

Christ never said he was God.Jesus is never recorded in the Bible as saying the exact words, “I am God.” That does not mean, however, that He did not proclaim that He is God. Take for example Jesus’ words in John 10:30, “I and the Father are one.” At first glance, this might not seem to be a claim to be God. However, look at the Jews’ reaction to His statement, “We are not stoning you for any of these, replied the Jews, but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God” (John 10:33). The Jews understood Jesus’ statement to be a claim to be God. In the following verses Jesus never corrects the Jews by saying, “I did not claim to be God.” That indicates Jesus was truly saying He was God by declaring, “I and the Father are one” (John 10:30). John 8:58 is another example. Jesus declared, I tell you the truth, Jesus answered, before Abraham was born, I am!” Again, in response, the Jews take up stones in an attempt to stone Jesus (John 8:59). Why would the Jews want to stone Jesus if He hadn’t said! something they believed to be blasphemous, namely, a claim to be God?

Answer 8

Maybe you should actually try reading your bible, unless you reject certain parts.

John 8:58
58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God

Colossians 2:9 For in him [Christ] dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Answer 9

The doctrine of the Trinity is the result of continuous exploration by the church of the biblical data, thrashed out in debate and treatises, eventually formulated at the First Council of Nicaea in 325 AD in a way they believe is consistent with the biblical witness , and further refined in later councils and writings.[1] The most widely recognized Biblical foundations for the doctrine's formulation are in the Gospel of John. [1]
It was a clumsy if inventive compromise in synthesizing what had essentially become three divine entities into one in order to maintain the myth of monotheism.

Answer 10

I'm kinda with you on this. God is the father, He's top. Then Christ, who prayed to God, so its obvious that God is at the top. Sure, Christ is part of God, just like my kids are a part of me, but that doesn't mean they are me. The Holy Spirit is a thing, a gift from God, not a separate entity.

Answer 11

Very interesting! Proverbs or Psalms 8 or 9, one of those describes jesus as the Master craftsman by the fathers side during the creation. it says that Jesus delghted in his fathers works. No one nose the exact time not even the son only the father. Deffinatly two seperate Entitys.