For atheists: How do you deny the existance of a supreme being or messiyah when the time on your very watch is set by his death? Did you know that time itself has been set according to the death of the messiyah?
For Christians: How is it you deny the very simple premise of there never being a Jesus Christ in existance (in the way Christians believe it--son of God, basically)?
I mean, firstly, The Letter J didn't exist during the era the messiyah was around, and there still isn't one in the language he spoke to this day (or even a sound similar to the sound made by it), Secondly, Christ is a title and not a surname, and it didn't exist until after his death. Finally, "God" didn't have a baby boy sent to establish anything--it never was documented in any translation or transliteration of the Bible of it being that way. Every version says that the Messiyah was sent to fulfill the Jewish Covenant, and move it out of the way so we could be saved. I'd ask more, but I'm out of letters.
2007-01-15 10:31:31 · 16 answers · asked by MaSTA SoLIDUS 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I deny the existence of "God" just as easily as you deny the existence of "Quetzalcoatl".
2007-01-15 10:38:27 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 0⤋
To answer the atheist question: huh? I don't even understand what you're trying to say. How has time, something that was around for billions of years before this supposed messiah arrived, been set by his death?
Next, who cares if the letter J didn't exist? The english alphabet didn't exist. And Jesus' name isn't Jesus, it's Yeshua, if you're translating from the Hebrew (same as Joshua). Your second point, I agree with; in fact, according to Philippians, the name Jesus wasn't given until after his death. Finally, the Jewish messiah isn't here to spread salvation but to be a military leader that rules over Israel. The old testament is absolutely crystal clear on this point.
2007-01-15 18:42:19 · answer #2 · answered by abulafia24 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I don't deny that there was a Jesus Christ, I simply deny that he is the son of God, or that there is even a God, for that matter.
Sure, our clocks are based on his death, but that doesn't mean anything, only that he died. Just because man of the Middle Ages thinks that Jesus is God doesn't mean that I need to think so. Jesus wasn't even mentioned as divine until a bunch of Catholics got together (Concil of Nicea) and decided what they wanted in the scripture.
2007-01-15 18:41:47 · answer #3 · answered by rita_alabama 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Huh???
The time on my watch is set by the rotation of the earth, and my distance from the prime meridian. The date is a result of the Gregorian calendar, established after the death of a man named Jesus, but it in no way confirms, or provides proof, of a supernatural deity. I could just as easily use another cultures calendar, or start my own based on the date of my birth. It is only for UNIVERSAL CONVENIENCE that we conform to the Gregorian calendar, not because we endorse Christianity.
What a supremely dumb question.
2007-01-15 18:42:43 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
I don't deny that belief in God shaped the world including our calandar but that doesn't make it real. If that were the case we wouldn't need to cure cancer we could merely convince everyone that drinking orange juice cured it, and by the majority thinking it, it would come true. We named our days of the week after Roman and Norse Gods, but that doesn't mean they actually exist. And if we suddenly started calling an hour a "Jesus Hour" that wouldn't prove he was divine, merely that we have a name for a unit of time measurement.
2007-01-15 18:39:49 · answer #5 · answered by jleslie4585 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
1. Jesus was the Son of God John 1. So no 'J', so what?
2. Hebrew Messiah; Greek Christos; English Christ
3. Jesus was sent as the Messiah; and he did remove the 'old testament' (law of Moses) symbolized by the renting of the curtain of the Holy of Holies at his death on the cross.
2007-01-15 19:02:45 · answer #6 · answered by jefferyspringer57@sbcglobal.net 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
BC (BCE) and AD (CE) are set (highly approximately) by Yeshua's birth, not death. Therefore I have some reason to believe a MAN by that name existed, and that some people considered him to be a Messianic figure. The truth about this, or any other claims about him are without much credible supporting evidence. And this is the set point of our measure of date, not time itself.
2007-01-15 18:48:24 · answer #7 · answered by neil s 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
How can you deny the existence of the Pagan Gods when the days of the week are named after them? Thor's Day!
2007-01-15 18:46:03 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
How does a calendar date prove anything other then the impact and reach of chrsitianity?
It doesn't.
Also not believing Jesus is god incarnate does not mean that "Jesus" never existed.
2007-01-15 18:41:49 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
How do you deny that Thor and Woden exist, when there are days of the week named after them?
2007-01-15 18:52:25 · answer #10 · answered by eldad9 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋