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How can you equate *faith* with *proof*? They're two entirely different things.

2007-01-15 04:34:15 · 24 answers · asked by iamnoone 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Yes you need faith only to be sure of God's existence I do not need any proof

2007-01-15 04:39:58 · answer #1 · answered by akband 4 · 1 0

I did not equate faith with proof however I did receive proof after being faithful or deciding to believe whatever that is called, so it is the decision made without proof in hope that the author of what you believe is truth is what He says He is.

Now regarding how I disappointed you.
This is what I did, I capityalized the word few. Those few still answered as you can see by the answers to that question. I wanted to know the view point of both groups as the question indicates. I am surprised you read something into the question I do not believe was actually there. You see when I ask questions directed at Christians I always get answers as I did with this one like why do you leave us out and you are so stuck on yourself and that kind of crapp which you know is not true. You also know I am not predjudiced towards atheists yet "I thoink " you reacted to my discrimianation towrds those atheists who are obviously evil. I really have no time nor I desire answers from evil cowards who if they were in front of me would smile and act friendly but when out of my reach say nasty stuff about me and people like me. It is my assumption you are not one of these, and if you are I think it might be a good idea to put that under your morality microscope and decide if you want to continue with that as a part of who you are. I think honor and manners go hand in hand and when someone lacks either I would prefer they not bother me. Ronny sox would like a communiction via email if you continue to think that question was a source of disappointment and if it is there is also the fact that your answer could be edited, cuz trult I had no desire to disappoint you or any honorable soul.

Atheists I think have their morals as a guiding light so when I restructed my question to include them I inserted morals for the word Christian cuz we use scriptural dictates rather then our own compass. How does this get urned into a slap in the face I would like to understand this phenomina??

2007-01-16 05:31:29 · answer #2 · answered by icheeknows 5 · 2 0

Faith and proof are not the same thing. Faith is to believe without proof. Proof can only go so far.

There's this stuff called electricity that powers devices in my home. I've never seen an electron but I believe in them. Electricity is supposed to be made up of electrons which exhibit certain properties under certain conditions. I don't actually have any proof that electrons exist. Since my electronic devices work, I take it on faith that electrons exist.

This type of analogy can be applied to the existence of God. You don't need proof of God in order to believe in God. Faith is beyond proof but still may be logical.

Yeah, I know this is a greatly simplified example but how detailed can I get in 1000 words or less?

2007-01-15 04:51:17 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The basics is "we have faith that the Bible is proof".
If you don't believe the Bible, that's up to you. The faith part is, we believe the Bible to be God's word. Therefor it's proof enough for most Christians. I also believe in God's existence, though, because of the complexity of humans, animals, plants, etc. and don't see how it could be possible that it was all by chance or accident that we occurred. I also don't feel, and never have, that this life is all there is - that just wouldn't be fair to the majority that don't even live past 20 years of age. Therefor I believe in a creator, and a protector or grand judge and that there's got to be something better than the sludge of the world we live in today. There's got to be something out there like divine judgment for all the molesters and murderers out there making it harder for all the other people who actually live with respect for other humans.

2007-01-15 04:45:51 · answer #4 · answered by CHRISTINA 4 · 1 0

I don't mean anything disrespectful to you, but I find this question a little myopic. We can look to something as plain to see as Israel ( for Christians anyway) and see that it is there. It was promised, taken away, promised again, and taken away again, and then promised and established again. All that can be found in the Bible. We can then look at Archaeology and know that without a doubt, lost places were found by consulting this book. Then we look to history and lingusitics, and we see that it claims that Jesus lived, and that we have evidence of because we have an entire history of Christians appearing throughout the history thereof whether establishing churches, being persecuted, or making a statement somewhere along the chain of events, whatever they were at the time.

But none of that says that God will take care of me. So faith continue in the sense of hope, that Jesus raised from the dead, and IF he could do that, he can take care of me, because the Bible says that he cares for those who are his children. The Bible states that his children are those who trust him and have accepted his Son.

So there are still daily issues that we can hope for that are available to those who love God, and trust him to do what he said we would do.

It's not about acting perfect, it's about trust. It's not about 'religion', it's about that relationship that occurs when you accept God into your heart, similar to the way you would lovingly accept anyone else in other relationships.

It's that simple.

2007-01-15 04:55:54 · answer #5 · answered by Christian Sinner 7 · 1 0

"Proof" exists nowhere except in pure mathematics. Read Hume. Even effective causality can't be proven.

We operate constantly with effective certainty about things we could never prove. Especially when you get into the more existentially significant aspects of human life -- our relationships with others, for example -- what scope is there for "proof"? Theists simply think that our relationship to the ultimate mystery, to the unfathomable ground of being, the abyss of our own freedom and our own existence, has the character of a personal relationship.

Faith is not intellectual assent to a set of propositions. Faith is the orientation of the whole person towards what one considers worthy of one's ultimate commitment. Faith is a matter of existential intuition, sometimes bolstered by experience, sometimes confounded by it. This, by the way, is precisely how science actually works (read 'Personal Knowledge' by Michael Polanyi for a description of how scientific knowledge is shaped by passion and intuition).

2007-01-16 01:27:48 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Having the tangible is in effortless words a proscribing aspect because commonly our mind's eye exceeds the aspect itself. notwithstanding, God is larger than we are able to imagine so i do not imagine the same concept ought to come into play the following. My own opinion is that someone taht believes without seeing is extra blessed in some eternal experience per chance. i'd be incorrect, yet at any fee, if God is infinitely tremendous as i experience he's, i do not imagine the problem is the finished thing about Him being dwindled by technique of having something of Him proper earlier our eyes. at the same time as Jesus stated this to the apostles, they'd certainly experienced Jesus proper earlier their eyes, and He does exhibit the daddy yet they'd not experienced the finished glory of God because the Bible teaches that no guy can seem on God and stay. So even regardless of the reality that Jesus made this reality to them about those not having seen Him yet nonetheless believeing replaced into extra blessed, it does not seem the case that it replaced into because there replaced into no room left for wonderment and awe. by no skill.

2016-11-24 19:16:05 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You can't equate faith with proof. Science, nor religion will ever be able to prove that God exists or does not exists, and God does not want to present a very lucrative target for people who are seeking him.

Purposely God is not in the business of showing himself to people, and that builds faith. Jesus plainly said to one of his disciples after his Resurrection and didn't believe Jesus was back but said he would believe if he saw Jesus, Jesus said "because you've seen me you believe, BUT BLESSED HIS HE WHO SEES NOT, BUT BELIEVES ANYWAY"

That scripture, like all, are symbolic and have a specific purpose for everyone. The Bible also says that faith is a gift from God, and only he can give it. But it doesn't change the fact that eventually God will give all faith and all will be saved; 1tim 2:4.

2007-01-15 04:46:29 · answer #8 · answered by billy d 5 · 0 1

Well I have faith that if I lead a good life I will have a good afterlife, so it must be true then according to the theory.

I could be an idiot and say i have faith that I am the world's greatest lover, so i must be, to prove my point that faith is sooooooo not proof........the trophy i have that says I am the world's greatest lover however.....solid proof.

2007-01-15 04:43:57 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I have faith im going to get lots of job offers, but as for proof I have to wait until they come through. This is the same as gods existance, unless he drags that *** of his into the front of a TV camera and apologises to teh entire world for all the bickering that he has caused there is no way in hell we can say he exists.

2007-01-15 04:42:25 · answer #10 · answered by A_Geologist 5 · 1 1

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