where do you draw the line between religion and abuse?

Question

some religons don't believe in medical treatment in general or certain treatments specifically.
other support polygamy (including polyandry) and other practices deemed abusive/possibly abusive.

where do you draw the line between religious freedom and abuse?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061227/lf_nm/usa_religion_medicine_dc

http://www.childrenshealthcare.org/

~ warning these stories can make you cry, the second child is the son of the people who founded the organization- after he died due to their old religious practices.~

can people who answer list thier religion and how devoute they are- many have and it is very appreciated

Answer 1

That's outrageous!!! Just terrible!!! And to children!!! Ok, this might come as a shock to you, but I am a muslim and as a muslim, I know that my health comes first. Islam says this repeatedly. There are things that are prohibited, but if they are necessary for survival than, as is stated in the Quran, it's not a sin. If you are starving to death and the only food available is pork and you will literally die if you don't eat something, it's OK. If you have an illness that needs medication and there is gelatin (derived from pork) in it, it's ok because it's for your health. If you need to have an operation done on your heart and you need to have a valve replaced with a pig's valve, no problem because it's to save life. The parents who did this should be ashamed of themselves!!! How can any parent sit there and allow their child to die? God gives us commands, but He/She doesn't exactly expect us to sit there and do nothing while expecting Him/Her to do it all? We are to do our part as well. Those parents should be arrested and sent to prison for life for the murder of their children. This is absolutely disgusting. That, and the love of your children should overcome ALL. If somebody harmed my children, and I fully knowing that Islam says to forgive them, I don't CARE. I'll go after their blood because I'm a mother and that's what a mother does.

Answer 2

I believe that when your religious freedom and "rights" tread upon the basic rights and freedoms of another human being, that's where the line is drawn. No child should have to suffer and die at the hands of his parents because of a religious belief that forbids medical treatment. Many people (and I'm thinking of mainline Christians here) actually believe that God has given us physicians to treat us and keep us well. I think that basically it's the same for religious freedom as it is for any other kind of freedom. My right to swing my arm ends where it connects with your nose, know what I mean?

Answer 3

Being happy with your ethnicity does not comprise putting apart your self from different cultures - which skill not purposely having acquaintances, colleagues or any institutions with those who're not of the same ethnicity as you. A supremacist sees everybody else compared to them below them, making use of bogus propaganda, etc - being proud is basically saying "Im Italian, and that i love it, yet everybody else is cool too.. Cheers

Answer 4

One of the Apostles of Jesus Christ was a physician if I remember correctly and even Paul indicated that medicinal use of wine for stomach ailments was ok. Medical care is just applying the natural world, which God created to change symptoms or kill bacteria or virus'. I seems to me that allowing your child to die when simple medical treatment is available is a worse sin than a perceived sin of medical treatment. How horrible to die in the ways described in the links. A true christian belief dovetails nicely with medical treatment.

Answer 5

Only when it comes to children under the legal age of consent, which is 18 in most countries.

I'm in favor of Government stepping in.

I am one of the few believes in God and Jesus that don't PRAISE the BRANCH DIVIDIAN CHURCH, although i don't Praise Clinton and his AG for doing what happened.

After 18 a person makes their own mind up.

Answer 6

I am a Buddhist doing my best.

It's good for law to exists outside of religion; that's my guideline for evaluating the right of specific religions to exist - do they institutionally break the law?

IMO These examples are institutions that break the law.

Answer 7

WHEN YOU FEEL YOU HAVE TO GIVE THE CHURCH MONEY...I THINK OF ALL THINGS IF IT IS TRULEY REAL THEN MONEY SHOULD NOT BE ASKED FOR ,...AND DON'T TELL ME THEY DON'T ASK??THEY CALL IT AN OFFERING...THEN PUT IT ON A TABLE AND LET ME DECIDE TO GIVE INSTEAD OF HAVING IT PASSED TO YOU AND NOT HAVE FUNDS. SO THAT THEY CAN GO OUT TO LUNCH AND DISCUSS WHO GAVE..BELEIVE IT CHRISTIANS...THY SHALL NOT TAKE TO FEED OTHER PLACES WHEN WE HAVE HOMELESS AND HUNGRY OF OUR OWN..I THINK ALL CHURCHES SHOULD DONATE 1/2 THERE $ TO HIGHER MINIUM WAGE BET THAT'L;L PUT A SMILE ON THE LORDS FACE AND LOWER CRIME!!

Answer 8

abuse should not be tolerated in any form.