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i don't know why, but i always have cravings for raw meat... sometimes i steal it from my moms fridge... I DON'T KNOW WHY but i love raw beaten eggs on top too. do you really think this is a problem?? all of my friends do it to..

2007-01-11 03:51:21 · 12 answers · asked by missaidanx33 1 in Food & Drink Vegetarian & Vegan

12 answers

The choice of eating cooked or raw meats is a quite difficult one. Here are some factors to consider:

- Increases strain on the liver

Our digestive effort must be greater with raw meat. Also, the fact that no heat denaturation has taken place probably means that more polypeptides, rather then simple amino acids, will be transported to the liver, which then must further digest them, because certain polypeptides are not welcomed in the blood. Both liver and blood contain many enzymes which remove polypeptides rather fast, but that means that when we eat raw meat the liver must work harder.

+ Uncooked foods contain more solar magnetism than cooked foods


The more directly food comes to us from the soil, the more solar magnetism it contains. Consequently, it ''stays with us'' the longest when eaten uncooked. When food has gone through the process of cooking, a part of the ether it contained is lost, as a number of the finer particles are dissolved by heat and ascend in the kitchen as odor from whatever food it comes. Consequently the cells of cooked food remain a shorter time as a pert of our body than in the case of an uncooked food, and food which has already been assimilated by the animal has very little chemical ether of its own (except milk which is obtained by a vital process and has a greater quantity of ether than any other food).

- On the other hand, in the dead flesh of animals this solar magnetism is gone

Hence with regard to the flesh of animals it may be said that most of the chemical ether in the fodder has gone into the vital body of the animal before it was killed, and at its death the vital body leaves the carcass. Therefore flesh putrefies very much quicker than vegetables and ''stays with us'' only a short time after we eat it.

+ Heating proteins cause them to cross-link and form mutated proteins

Due to heat, preparing food originates new substances. Most of these new substances originate from proteins reacting upon carbohydrates. Some of these substances cause cancer, or brain diseases, and impair neurotransmitter function and metabolism.
To be able to grow old and healthy, you need to consume as little prepared food. (prepared proteinacous food in particular).

+ Raw foods contain the naturally available enzymes
Raw foods are on the other hand easier to digest because they contain the natural enzymes. Heating destroys these enzymes. However, it's uncertain if these enzymes survive the stomach acid.

+ Raw fats have better properties than heated fats
Raw fats have much better cleansing / detoxification properties than heated fats. Also all poly-unsaturated fats (and also mono-unsaturated) fats are damaged by heating and cause massive amounts of free radicals.

+ Raw foods contain less free radicals
Heating increases chemical reaction speed and significantly increases the forming of free radicals.

+ Raw foods contain more vitamins
Heating destroys specific vitamins, so raw foods contain more vitamins

- Heating de-activates certain anti-nutrients
For example, raw egg-whites contain anti-nutrients (avidin www.provet.co.uk/health/diseases/eggwhite.htm ) which hinder the absorption of B-vitamins. When cooked this anti-nutrient is deactivated.

+ Eating raw means no risk of nickel/aluminium or Teflon poisoning
There seems to be no safe metal/material to cook in without risking poisoning

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I received the following notes from a Live-Food subscriber:

1. ''Increases strain on the liver.'' Can't agree with the idea that the
overall digestive effort is greater for raw meat - it's actually much
less effort / easier. Most people who switch to raw meat lose their
indigestion quickly. By the way, it is, perhaps, an oversight to
isolate one food (raw meat in this case) from others in a diet in an
effort to quantify and qualify the effects and properties. Most of us
do not eat raw meat alone - but also other foods and many drink green
juices or eat many dark greens to heal and nourish the liver and balance
the diet. Ref: Food is Your Best Medicine - Beiler. So perhaps your
list should include the necessary other changes in the diet. Example:
when I was eating cooked meats I had to use herbs and spices to aid in
my digestion and nutrition balance. On raw meats I need none of those.

2. ''uncooked foods contains more solar magnetism...'' Well, I would also
mention that the flesh of ruminants, for example, contains chemical
ether (as you call it) and is created by the same process as the milk
(eating grass and digesting it, etc.)

3. re: ''..in the dead flesh of animals this solar magnetism is gone'' My
observation is that vegetables rot more quickly than meat. Also,
uncooked meat does not putrefy in the sense that the bacteria that comes
in the uncooked meat is beneficial and desirable. When cooked foods are
attacked by bacteria those bacteria are potentially non-beneficial or
dangerous. I think of these dangerous bacteria when I think
''putrefaction.'' Example: Pasteurized milk can putrefy and become
dangerous sometimes (it can kill), raw milk does not putrefy - it sours
- and has never been shown to be dangerous. It is the same with raw
meat that has been raised in a healthy environment - it ''sours'' but does
not putrefy (in the sense I use). Additionally, my experience has been
that the beneficial effects (the ''staying with us longer'' effect) of raw
meats seem to be as long-lasting to me as fresh vegetables. I'm not
sure that there is any real difference between meat and veggies in that
regard. As far as the concept of ''vital body'' or essence, I think we
agree that the fresher the food, the more vital it is when eaten. For
example, no tomato sitting on a shelf in a store can compare to one just
pulled ripe off the vine.

4. The one about ''heating proteins... mutated proteins'' should not have
a plus sign - needs a minus I believe. Cause cancer - not good, right?

5. Raw fats have other than cleansing and detoxification properties.
They are also an important energy source and thus support a balanced
metabolism.

6. Regarding the example of anti-nutrients (as in eggs). Check me on
this but I believe that *fertile* eggs contain an ingredient(s) that
nullifies the anti-nutrient. What you say is correct about non-fertile
eggs.

7. I'm not certain about this but I always believed that copper and
iron and stainless steel cooking pans were not toxic to us when used to
cook foods. Certainly copper kills bacteria (not necessarily a good
thing on a raw diet) but I don't think it becomes toxic to us when
ingested in the amounts we would get from cooking foods in it. Copper
and acidic foods (citrus, vinegar, etc.) might increase the amount
ingested to higher levels. Certainly the things you mentioned (nickel,
aluminium) are known to be poisonous in certain forms and, well, Teflon
is just plain ugly.

8. You might bring up the subject of cooking oils, etc. Many people
cook meat in butter or oil if pan fried or sauteed. Or the meat cooks in
it's own fats. As you probably know ingesting cooked oils/fats can be a
big problem in the grand scheme of things.

9. You might mention somewhere in your list that it is important to
obtain healthy raw meat - not just any raw meat will do (it may not be
safe). Naturally ''organic'' is the ideal (no antibiotics, growth
hormones, pesticides, etc.) We tend to use the standard of: range free,
grass fed bison and cow (and any food animal must be fed its natural
foods); range free, omnivorously fed chicken and eggs; non-farmed, deep
sea fish. Wild meat must come from places where the available food and
water for the animal is known to be untainted by toxins, pollution, etc.

Also, fresh raw meat (as I described above) poses no problems for most
people. However, when that same meat is older (or aged), beneficial
bacteria (which comes with the meat from the host animal) blooms on the
meat. It is important, I feel, to ease into eating aged meat. After
the body becomes accustomed to the new strains of bacteria they are less
likely to cause imbalances. This is much the same as with drinking raw
milk (full of excellent, live bacteria) after having drunk pasteurized
milk (dead) for a long time. The whole topic of beneficial bacteria
should be revealed to the reader - for all fresh foods contain
beneficial bacteria that are (in my humble opinion) symbiotic with
humans (and as important or more so as the solar magnetism you cite as
being desirable).

2007-01-11 04:06:31 · answer #1 · answered by deliciasyvariedades 5 · 1 1

If you're sure it's fresh, raw beef can be very good! But don't ever eat raw pork or poultry, or anything that isn't extremely fresh (of course no one should eat really old meat but more so than if you were to cook it). Pork & poultry are far more likely to contain salmonella than beef is. Also don't eat minced beef raw; more chance for bacteria to be caught in there during the production process. Pork, poultry, minced beef products, should always be cooked so they're heated all through, not just on the outside.

Eggs are a bit risky, they could have salmonella too, but my parents and grandparents tell me that they used to believe raw eggs were very healthy & they'd always drink a raw egg when they were sick, to get strong & better! That was a very common home remedy once, and if it caused too many problems I doubt it'd have been like that, people back then didn't know as much about salmonella but they weren't that stupid, if loads of people would've gotten even more sick, they'd surely have noticed :-) Again, if you decide to eat a raw egg, be sure it's fresh.

Even with fresh beef there's a small chance of E.Coli and the like but I've eaten lots of raw beef, raw fish (sushi is delicious!), or beef just heated up to body temperature & still *very* bloody on the inside, and never been sick even once. I've always stuck to those rules I wrote here though, and if my chicken or pork was even the least bit red on the inside I'll put it back in the oven/frying pan for a bit! I also love runny eggs (which also carry a salmonella risk, although probably at least some of the bacteria have been killed, but not all), but then I also make sure they're fresh (sometimes the local petting zoo sells eggs from the same day, unlike in the store where they're at least days old because of the packaging process), when they're pretty much at the sell-by date I usually eat them hard-boiled.

2007-01-11 04:10:09 · answer #2 · answered by Sheriam 7 · 1 1

In America, today, it is much less of a problem than it once was, but it is still not considered to be a good idea. Unfortunately, what with tape worms and tricinosis and mad cow disease and salmonella, it is generally a good idea to fully cook all meat and eggs before eating.

On the other hand, I grew up eating "steak tartare" (raw beef with egg) and absolutely LOVE it and am just fine, so . . .

Of course, my mother, from Germany, DID get a tape worm over there, doing the same thing -- which is what I mean!

2007-01-11 04:00:34 · answer #3 · answered by Yahzmin ♥♥ 4ever 7 · 1 0

It's well known fact that meat is very likely to be contaminated with something. In many studies over 70% of chickens tested positive for campleobactor (sp?), and over 50% for salmonella. The chances of you getting sick from eating factory farmed raw meat is greater then flipping a coin.

2007-01-11 04:03:40 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

If both the meat and the eggs have been properly handled, it's not a problem.
But if you get them from the grocery store, you have no idea if they've been properly handled or not. Cooking meat and eggs kills dangerous bacteria that can make you very sick -- if you eat them raw, you run a very high risk of getting quite sick. Especially the eggs -- salmonella poisoning is NOT fun, and can be fatal if you don't get treatment.

2007-01-11 03:59:29 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

i rather you eat meats and eggs that have been at least pasturized to be consumed uncooked.

you're risking one day when a company didn't do their job... contamination of bacteria from poorly processed food.

it's pretty painful and can kill you when that happens.. it even happens with fresh vegetables as you already know.

you want raw.. get pasturized raw.. or go to a sushi bar and ask for the meat version of the product.. (which i forgot the name of... it doesn't have rice or seaweed it's just the meat)

2007-01-11 03:58:29 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

No, ofcourse not. Go ahead and eat raw, red, bloody meat. Eat raw eggs, too... and wait til the milk smells nasty to drink it all up. Top it all off with some raw fish... all this is really healthy for you! Infact, just take a nibble outta Fido while you're at it, too.

2007-01-11 09:49:23 · answer #7 · answered by deepvioletfire 3 · 1 4

It's called steak tartare. It's also called a perfect venue for both salmonella and e coli infections. Yes, it's a problem, a HUGE PROBLEM. A potentially DEADLY problem.

Why are you asking this question on a vegetarian/vegan board? (Unless you did so unintentionally.)

2007-01-11 12:35:14 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

If you like salmonella and E. coli 0157H7 go ahead. Usually the diarrhea goes away without treatment or long-term effect, and very few actually die from either.

2007-01-11 04:01:52 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

I'm assuming you posted this in vegetarian and vegan as some kind of immature attempt at humour. I can only assume that your brain resembles the pile of raw minced meat you refer to.

2007-01-11 04:40:53 · answer #10 · answered by emsr2d2 4 · 2 4

It is a problem if you think it is of any interest to Veggies and Vegans.

Most of us don't care what you do.

you may wish to inform your healthcare provider about your impending heart condition.

2007-01-11 04:15:15 · answer #11 · answered by Michael H 7 · 6 2

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