If god created the universe from nothing... then something can come from nothing.
If the material always existed within god, then the material for the universe always existed and there is no need for a god.
2006-12-30 17:50:33 · 14 answers · asked by imrational 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Anyone else notice that the theists didn't answer the full question? or if they did, it just didn't make much sense?
2006-12-30 18:27:48 · update #1
Socinian, I guess your answers falls into the latter, it didn't make much sense. Inanimate materials (i.e. without life) change all the time. Crystals grow, mountains fall, chemical reactions continue.
Your then proceed to posit that a god had to create the universe... and only a god. Do you realize that by saying only a god could create everything you are closing your mind?
Also, where is your evidence for this? Scientists have come up with explanations for quite a bit... things that before could only be explained by a god. The idea of a god has retreated from lightning bolts, diversity of life, explanations of stars, planets, and suns, etc.
There is no evidence for god. There is no evidence against god... yet why wouldn't an omnipotent, benevolent being be very open in showing himself to his creations? Especially since denial causes one to burn forever in hell.
2006-12-31 05:23:00 · update #2
Clever. Somehow it never occured to me that if a god created the universe... how? Or better yet... where'd He get the material to do so?
Abiogenesis makes more sense right about now.
2006-12-30 17:53:20 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋
But maybe there is a need for god. Maybe we as human race have to have a fear that will help us stay in a right track. What if the moon was god. Some lunatic would destroy it and hence there is no fear. Without fear there is no order and chaos prevailes. Maybe god is a concept rather than a thing. You make something immortal and it lives forever. You can't predict the future but you can try to control the future. I think that god is a word that is meant to believe and not ask its exsitence or why there is god. It is like a legend that teaches you something and guarantees your future. But does this universe recycle its self. It certainly seems that yes. The galaxies are moving away from each other at an accelerated pace(a fact measures by astronomers). Maybe the whole universe will end like a star. The material will crush in a singe point and the mirror universe will take place. It is believed that a black hole leads you to a universe, mirror to our universe where you can go in any time but you can move in only one direction: towards the origin or black hole. Maybe at the end our universe will invert and here you will be able to move anywhere in time, but only in one direction, whereas in the mirror universe, a new universe will matter will be formed.
2006-12-30 17:56:59 · answer #2 · answered by shkabaj 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
No still something cannot come from absolutely nothing.You are still positing something and then ignoring it, God. Is God nothing?
Everything comes from God. If you must accept that something existed forever, which you must, why when faced with that choice will you pick an imperfect inferior thing that is alleged to grow into a perfect thing without help or guidance, instead of a perfect thing that creates things modelled on wisdom, knowledge, and life.
If something existed forever without life it would never change.
Additional deatial:
You say no one answered your question, I did, so what is your denial about.
Another point is how would material bring itself into existence, a natural mechanism or material can never explain itself, only someting above it that is not natural as we know it.
Where does existence itslef come from , again any atheistic answer is hopeless, only a Deity with powers above what is exhibited by any natural thing can do it.With power and possibilites not bound by the laws found here, because these laws can never go beyond themsleves. Something superior to them all and really holding all possibilities and potential within itself. The bible puts it this way in Hebrews, the things that are seen were created by things unseen.
2006-12-30 17:55:51 · answer #3 · answered by Socinian F 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
God indeed exists, because He is the only One who did not have to be created...all things have to have a creator, and He is it. God can create something from nothing because He is ALL-powerful and able to do ANYTHING! The Bible says that he spoke and this world existed. We can't understand how God could do this, but He did.
2006-12-30 18:09:35 · answer #4 · answered by gimj314 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
My money's on "the material for the universe always existed"
2006-12-30 17:53:06 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Dont you think that the only (the SOLE) creature to answer this question is DOG, oh pardon me, GOD? But then, you cant ask him because he doesnt exist. Right? RIGHT..
2007-01-02 10:10:01 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
I'll get reported for this one, no doubt, but the egyptians believed the material was produced when he masturbated
2006-12-30 17:59:24 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
your name is fitting for the question, God is the creator of all things seen and unseen. this is how the world was created anything else is all lies and thoughtless bable
2006-12-30 17:59:04 · answer #8 · answered by spanky 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If you read in Genesis you see all God had to do was say let there be light and there was light. All God had to do was say what He wanted to be made and it was done.
2006-12-30 17:53:51 · answer #9 · answered by Josh D 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
GOD IS NEUTRAL IN THE CREATED MATERIAL ACTIVITY.HE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GAIN OR LOSS.HE IS TRANSCENDENTAL TO ALL THESE ACTIVITIES.ENTITY TAKES MANY FORMS IN CREATION AN ANNIHILATION THEY MANIFEST AND RE-MANIFEST AGAIN AND AGAIN.
2006-12-30 18:10:59 · answer #10 · answered by ak 123 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋