Thats like a english speaking person trying to understand and read a spanish version. YOU DON'T GET IT!!!!! AND that does not remove the truth or power of it. YOUR JUST mad you dont get it. SO aren't you really just trying to discredit it to feel less rejected????????ANd Please spare me the woe is me I use to be a christian babble.
2006-12-30 17:27:49 · 33 answers · asked by maybe 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
It is a bit naive of you to think that I don't get it. I understand it better than you do -- I just don't believe all of it.
2006-12-30 17:31:05 · answer #1 · answered by Ranto 7 · 6⤊ 1⤋
Actually, it's you who doesn't get it. I've read the Bible, and used to be a teacher and music minister. I've written sacred music and performed in many churches, though I'm no-one of real consequence.
When I speak of scripture though, I daresay that I understand it better than many Christians. I simply reject the institution of the Church, and the concept of the necessity of some salvation.
I've no "woe is me" tale for you. I don't feel it necessary. I don't even argue; I'll just tell the truth. You can accept or reject and I care less than little.
On the other hand, I also defend Christianity against those who defame or ridicule it. Those who believe are often just and caring individuals. I simply can't stand arguments based on ignorance or meanness.
Your argument here is based on ignorance and anger, and not one bit of reason. You lump all who "say they've read" together. There are some who are educated and some ignorant, and some lying.
So, when you can get off your soap-box, do a little learning, and speak from wisdom, a bit of education or reason, we might have something to discuss.
Proper English might go a way toward making your point as well.
2006-12-30 17:38:55 · answer #2 · answered by Deirdre H 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
The Bible is--among other things--a book. People who can read can therefore read it whether they believe it or not. You're right that there are levels of meaning to this book--I imagine there are facets of it that an unbeliever cannot grasp, which a believer can. But that doesn't mean an unbeliever can't argue the literal, surface meaning, like the fact that Jesus talked about worrying about the splinter in your brother's eye and ignoring the plank in yours, or tricks of translation when a word meant one thing in Greek but was translated differently in English. That's merely literal interpretation, and it's open to anyone. As for discussions about the Bible's meaning on the "belief" level, it seems best to keep that between people who believe. If you take it into a forum that includes non-believers--especially when so many Christians try to use it as proof against non-believers--then non-believers will indeed respond with our merely literal grasp of it.
FWIW, the ALL CAPS and multiple exclamation and question marks make it "sound" like you are the one who is angry. Once you truly believe in the worth of your religion, you will no longer feel threatened by those who don't understand it.
2006-12-30 17:35:27 · answer #3 · answered by Vaughn 6 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Are you "a english speaking person" (instead of "an English speaking person")? If so you should know that the word you wanted is "you're" not "your" - it's a conjunction of "you are," not a possessive adjective.
And as for the "woe is me..." Many people who have read the bible and dispute what it says are ex-Christians, and many are still Christians, who have just looked at it more objectively and logically.
Why does it bother you that some people don't believe exactly as you do? Are you unsure of your own beliefs and seeking validation? Believe what you want, but let others believe what they want to, too.
P.S.: Well said, Diedre!
2006-12-30 17:44:26 · answer #4 · answered by Don P 5 · 3⤊ 0⤋
I'm not speaking for myself here.
A lot of unbelievers have read more of the Bible all throughout than the typical Christian believer. And often times it is BECAUSE of doing so some of them turned to atheism.
We're not angry. We do get it.
We take the Bible literally as it probably was intended.
I assume that you say "No... some parts are meant to be taken literal! Others are meant to be symbolic!"
How do you know? That's just cherry-picking. If you do that you should just throw away with the Bible itself if you must pick and choose at it.
Even "symbolically" the entire Bible DOES contradict in several and confusing ways. Most, if not all, of it is heinous. No person would follow such a book when really seeing it for how it is and how it's meant to be.
2006-12-30 17:36:52 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
My Father use to tell me that something was true because "Rush Limbaugh" would show the people where it was on some paper. I would say Dad I know How to type too. Meaning just because we read it and can understand it does not mean that it is true. After all. There are so many people that can not only type but can read.
That being said just because we read the bible and understand it does not mean we have to believe everything that was rewritten over so many centuries that it is no more the real word of Mark, John, Luke, so on that it is the real words of David the Gnome.
2006-12-30 17:45:20 · answer #6 · answered by Chris 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
"Maybe" - you are very lucky to be able to read and understand the Bible. But remember, not everyone can read Hebrew and Greek like yourself, and these people have to read instead a translation made by other people. So of course they can't claim a true understanding of it like yourself.
However, despite the fact you may understand it, your aggressive rant shows clearly to everyone that you do not put Christ's teachings into action in your life. Why not go back and read the New Testament again from the beginning, in whatever language you like, and consider becoming a Christian yourself? You might find that letting God's love into your life will help you to resolve your problems.
Good luck, and best wishes for the New Year.
2006-12-31 00:33:13 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
It's just the same with christians. There are more varieties of christian than you can count and they all argue with each other what the bible means. This has even led to bloodshed. It's why the pilgrim fathers left europe and ended up in america
2006-12-30 18:08:46 · answer #8 · answered by brainstorm 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I dont think they are trying to discredit the Bible just trying to make an exscuse for their sins. Ask any unbeliever what God wants from them and they say well to ME God is.. or wants.. they all try and re-write little bits and pieces of the bible to suite them. I am a new christian so I ahvent read it all yet but there are some comon knowledge truths that I knew even before I got saved and people still try and change those too, like Jesus is the only way to the father's heart. People say oh well no no its not like that all I have to do is love everyone. And people dont realise that after a certain point it will be too late to be saved that irritates me too. They think they can live however they want then on there deathbeds they can be saved and its all good. But I think God will meet with EVERYONE in his own time and way.
2006-12-30 17:34:23 · answer #9 · answered by cuetee220 2 · 2⤊ 4⤋
Oh I think we 'get it' all to well which is exactly why, after reading the bible, we see it for what it truly is...christian mythology based on fairie tales. It is not a feeling of rejection I feel but a liberating glow of not being a mindless sheep.
2006-12-30 17:37:23 · answer #10 · answered by ndmagicman 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Is there an actual question here? I am a Born Again Christian, and I believe I missed the question here. And what exactly is a "christian babble?"
2006-12-30 17:32:26 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋