Christians: You wonder why atheists actively challenge your twisted beliefs?

Question

Here's why: http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801

Because my kid can't take a field trip to the Grand Canyon without being exposed to your Disneyland view of history, that's why!

Answer 1

If you are saying that this is the reason why you challenge the Christian faith, you are an even bigger liar than Darwin. Let's face it, unless you live near the Grand Canyon, your kids weren't going there anyway!

And God forbid that they listen to us, because they might grow up not wanting to cheat, rob, rape and kill everyone else to get ahead in life. Heck, they might even learn to love their neighbor!

Answer 2

Okay i read it. Look, I know that there are christian folks who keep saying that this world is about 6000 years old and Adam and Eve began it all. I am a Christian, who studies the Word in depth by way of the manuscripts. Look, you are absolutely correct. This is the deal: The Bible does not state anywhere that this earth is 6000 yrs old - in fact, the Bible states that this earth is billions and billions of years old, and even that there was an entire earth age before this one that we live in now. It's just that many Christians do not read the Bible with understanding.
I constantly try to convey the message to Christians that to say this earth is 6000 years old is to show a complete ignorance of the Word of God, and thats a shame, because i am sure they are well-meaning, but they really believe what they are saying, and they believe it because they think thats what Gods Word says, and they won't falter away from their God - and thats good, from a religious perspective, but it makes the whole bunch of us look like idiots, and i really do not like to look like an idiot.
Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth." a period ends the sentence. Now when did it say He did that? It doesn't, just "in the beginning". There is an entire age within that verse that is referred to over and over in scripture.
2Peter goes into very much detail about all three Earth ages - the one that was, the one that is, and the one that is to come.
How could this world be only 6000 years old when we dig up dinosaurs, etc. Its crazy to think the earth is that young. My point here is only this: There is no controversy between the truth of what Gods Word says, and true science. Absolutely none.
I am sorry that a few without knowledge are able to influence a place like the Grand Canyon into not telling the true facts. If I took my child there and found this out, i would have had a real fit, you can believe that.

Answer 3

The Scientific Orthodoxy with their cherished "peer" review system is entirely bias towards the Evolution/Uniformitarian Model, PERIOD, despite if evidence does not support this view. Additionally, the Scientific Orthodoxy is entirely “close-minded" towards any form of counter-conjecture that does not support their skewed paradigm. Thus, the conjecture of outsiders is conveniently blockaded and nullified. This is hardly a sound and reasonable system to examine ALL plausible conjecture, hypotheses and theories, because it is completely insulated, and does not allow external innovative counter-conjecture and the opportunity to examine other thought that is diametrically antipodal to its "protected paradigm".

I might point out that the major earth-shattering paradigm shifts in science have ALWAYS come from Mavericks "outside" of the currently dominant Scientific Orthodoxy; i.e. the obliteration of the Ptolemy Geocentric Solar System Theory by the Copernicus Solar System Model.

So as you and other atheists “mock” and “ridicule” the counter-conjecture of the Christian Worldview, be fully aware that your current 140-year old paradigm WILL ULTIMATELY be obliterated by a Scientific Maverick “outside” of your cherished Scientific Orthodoxy. This will happen, and people will look back at your theories with disbelief that actual “Moderns” and so-called people of “science” actually embraced such an archaic notion as Evolution, equal in ludicrousness and laugh-ability as the “Flat Earth Theory”.

Those of us independent theoretical researchers monitoring the scientific landscape can clearly surmise that science is swiftly approaching the threshold of the next major “Scientific Paradigm Shift” in which the Evolution/Uniformitarian Model will, in fact, be completely nullified, and the current Scientific Orthodoxy will be entirely discredited, resulting in the emergence of a “Neoscience”. This Neoscience will launch a new “Enlightenment Age”, and re-format the entire “Origins Issue” in a new and dramatically different light. We project that the new origins theory will have utterly nothing to do with “Evolution” or the imaginary gargantuan ages of the “Uniformitarian Dating System”, but instead with “Spontaneous Polybiological Mass Profusionism” (SPMP: the polybiological explosion of all contemporaneous life) and the “Hexaheliogenic Epochs” (the chronological history of our solar system in six great solar epochs spanning a total of 24 million years at maximum and consisting of 3 stars and 11 planets, hence… the Sirius Binary is the missing half of our solar system and Sirius B is our original paternal star).

Incidentally, the new data, that the current Scientific Orthodoxy refuses to consider, states that the worldwide deluge accounts, recorded in virtually EVERY ancient culture (despite the Bible), including the Noachian Flood, was factual, and was precipitated by the first cosmocataclysm to hit the Earth, being transterrestrial celestial bombardment at the climax of the second solar epoch when our paternal star Sirius B, originally a B-1 class Blue Supergiant received a cometary impact in its equatorial region which sprayed stellar debris out into the 2-membered solar system (Earth and Sirius B).

This stellar debris that bombarded the Earth collapsed an original one mile thick upper-hydrospheric shield (“Prima Altohydrosphere”) of frozen carbon and water that encapsulated the Earth 10 miles above the surface, and simultaneously fractured the Earth’s surface for the very first time, the former unfractured and seamless “Perilithosphere”, thus producing the rift faults and fracture zones around the whole planet that geology to this day has never been able to explain how they initially formed; hence they are “post-percussion features”. This breeched highly pressurized subterranean oceans and lakes sandwich in the oceanic crust, thus releasing the internal waters.

This is further collaborated by research executed in the 70’s by the U.S. Naval Research Branch of the Pentagon on the formation of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge in which the same conclusion was determined, that the ridge is a post-percussion feature that formed instantaneously and was pushed up by the SUDDEN release of trillions of metric tons of highly pressurized subterranean seas.

This event catapulted the Earth out of its orbit, thus due to inertia the oceans displaced out of their basins and overran the continents. Ancient folklore of the American Indians in the Central U.S. recount how the Pacific Ocean appeared as a mile high wall that rushed over the Rocky Mountains. This is the same event of the Noachian Flood that SUDDENLY carved out the Grand Canyon during the process of the oceanic run-off from the North American Continent.

The data delineates that the cometary impact into Sirius B (Comet Metis) precipitated a secondary event… internal mass had been displaced within the star and pressure built up opposite the impact site. Because a star is pliable, the impact site formed a depression with an encompassing doughnut, this exceeded the maximum tolerance of the photosphere and it ruptured a massive fissure that tore 180 degrees around the star, when the fissure reached the vicinity of the pressurized mass, then Sirius B radically expelled 70% of its mass in a mass stellar ejection episode, the birth of Sirius A and 10 new planets, thus forming our former Osirian Trinary Stellar System. The last celestial member to be expelled was our current Sun (technically, Sirius C), which did not have enough velocity to escape the source of its ejection so it established a binary relation with the new diminished star Sirius B that became an F-1 class star. Sirius A became the outer star, orbiting the body of the system.

An observer standing on Earth witnessing this would see a massive white hazy “bow” arched over the earthly sky. The ancient Chinese and the Babylonians called Sirius A the “Bow Star”. According to the Holy Scriptures, after the Flood of Noah had receded Noah prepared a sacrifice onto God, and to demonstrate to Noah that God would not ever again destroy the Earth by flood, He set a “bow” in the sky. Theologians had no idea how to interpret this concept other than as a “rainbow”, but in actuality its was the birth of Sirius A and its protracted ejecta tail within formed 10 new planets and our current Sun (Sirius C). So as you can clearly see the Bible is far more accurate than “Evolution” when it comes to our past and origins.

This was the formation of our former Osirian Trinary Stellar System, containing 14 celestial members. Eventually, Sirius B would undergo all its stellar phases, hyperdialating into a Red Giant, depleting its helium and ultimately exploding in a Nebula Discontinuity Event, compressing its core into its current White Dwarf phase. This Nebula Event is what split the system in half, creating our current system and the Sirius Binary. Hence, this is the source of the myth of the great god Osiris (Sirius B) whose body (the trinary system) was dismembered into 14 pieces that were scattered. Additionally, the "Sirian Trichotomy" is the origin of the "Sacred Triad" in pagan religion, for these three stars were "personified" into deity: Thus, throughout the worldwide myths of every culture Sirius B is the Great Begetter God; Sirius A is the Great Mother Goddess of the Gods (planets & Sun); and Sirius C (our Sun) is the Great Child God & Hero.

Consequently, as you can see the current Scientific Orthodoxy of the Evolution/Uniformitarian Model has held all of Modernity and Humankind captive in a 140-year old Scientific Dark Age. But this will soon become extinct,the Internet is providing the essential forum for the new emergent "Neoscience of True Reality".

Answer 4

Whoa! The Grand Canyon created by Noah's flood?

I'll just scratch "Grand Canyon" off my list of future vacation destinations...

Answer 5

Maybe something that YOU should teach your kids is not to judge a large group of people based on the views of a minority of them. Obviously a lesson that you, yourself didn't get as a child.

Answer 6

Are we having fun with the beliefs of the believers of imaginary things? Is this forum the right place to do it?

Answer 7

well then take him yourself. geesh man, take a pill. you should've never voted Bush second term. you bought it on yourself. even i dont believe the canyon was created by a great flood and im christian. next question....

Answer 8

Oh stop name calling Christians. I'm an Atheist, but you're giving us a bad name.

Answer 9

The answers from these Christians makes me want to throw up.

They'll send us back to the Dark Ages if they don't accidently create Armageddon first. Total crazies.

Answer 10

We feel the same way about public ed.