Belief in a trinity?

Question

The Catholic encylopedia admits that the trinity{a Babylonish belief} was not taught untill over 250 years after Jesus'death and many other religions such as Baptist , Methodist,lutheranand all other so called christian faiths are all offshoots from their mother the catholic church. Did you ever give that any thought?

Answer 1

Actually, the Catholic Encyclopedia doesn't say that the "concept" of the trinity wasn't taught, but that the "term" trinity is first found in writings of Theophilus of Antioch about A.D. 180. That does not preclude the belief that Christ and the Holy Spirit and the Father were considered one in being.

I hope this helps.

Answer 2

The original trinity has not changed. Spirit Soul and Body. It is the essence of living in time.
I have explained the Elden beliefs and writings in many of my answers and to go through them again is silly.
The Elden writers were Wizards and Priests that were on earth in the physical long before Catholic beliefs and teachings began. The truisms of the Catholic church had to fit the needs of the masses. The belief in one god and one body was unacceptable to the people that followed the Elden teachings. The Trinity is the most hallowed of teachings because it explains existence.

Constantine knew this. He had no doubt that anyone following the teachings of the Elden (Elden being twelve Faiths taught in Babylonia, Mesopotamia and along the great bridge) He knew that the ancients would not allow the beliefs he so loved to grow unless they held to the trinity. Modern day Catholicism teaches it slightly different but still holds to the trinity albeit slightly.
250 years after the death of Christ people still would not believe.
540 years after Jesus' death people almost forgot. (The great rains of stone) The true beginning of the dark ages. The heavenly ghost was seen to "wrought his anger" The ghost of god was literally a comet that passed very close to earth. This needed explaining and the Catholic church did it's level best. The masses were illiterate and easily taught by the uneducated.
A little temple held fast, swiftly gathering and holding in it's walls the Elden Writings. This would become the Temple Tianice. Thus saving some of the oldest writings and still today hiding and defending them. Catholics gathered and protected writings as well. They had the opportunity to take over the beliefs of man and would kill to do so. Written into the bible and indeed into the ten commandments was the rights to remove the witches and wizards that protected the Elden writings and ways. So were commands made by the Pope to kill all believers or convert believers that followed Any old faith. The door had been opened by the passing of a comet and it was not going to be closed.
As with any faith the ways of belief must remain in memories and ways were found to write and hide these ways.

" Suffer not the witches or wizards that might make you believe a path not of My creation"
"Suffer not" originally meant "pay them no mind" or "Don't listen"
It was changed to fit the Pope's needs.
So the Wizards of the Tianic faith wrote " Speak not of belief nor judge the belief of other man openly. Take into your spirit what you know as truth and Suffer not the children of the One God"
"Suffer not" meaning "Totally Ignore"
So it went and the warnings were headed and two faiths coincided even though there was and still is a deep dark hatred between the two. One that believed in the trinity as it was and one that took the trinity to fit it's needs.
A small bit of history that made old allies enemies. Where the Catholics did so well in removing the Evil beliefs that were all over the known world. They and the Christian "break aways" did their best to kill off thee, O' Witches, Wizards and Priests/Priestesses of the Elden ways.
I think of the Hallowed Trinity daily. I see how it was taken and what was done with it and though I am not allowed to judge, I cant help but judging. Even Priests are flawed.

Answer 3

The Trinity is really God in three person (the bible never calls it the Trinity) but here is evidence of the Trinity for you:

Baptism reveals the threeMatt 28:19
Paul wrote there were 3 divine personsEph. 4:4-6
Paul Continued2 Corinth. 13:14, Heb 9:14
Revelations opens w/introducing the GodheadRev. 1:4-6
The Godhead is three distinct persons and each is GodEph 4:6 The three
Titus 2:13 God & His Son
Acts 5:3-4 God & Holy Spirit

God said let us make man in our image and our likenessGenesis 1:26
The Angels cry Holy Holy Holy 3x’s – once for eachIsaiah 6:3
We can never understand everything about GodRom 11:33
God is a tri-unity of two invisible (Father and Spirit) persons and one visible (Jesus the Son)

There are three stages of salvation: justification, sanctification and glorification

And ye are Christ’s; and Christ is God’sI Corinthians 3:23
know that…the head of Christ is GodI Corinthians 11:3
Christ receives all from the FatherJohn 3:35 and John 5:22

The Son live to glorify the Father and the Spirit lives to glorify the Father and SonJohn 17:1,5 16:14 13:31, 32

We pray to the Father in the name of the Son. Just because the Father is supreme it does not diminish from the divinity of Jesus & the Holy Spirit

Answer 4

yep...........here is some really excellent info on your subject too!

The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”—(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.

The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.

In The Encyclopedia Americana we read: “Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching.”—(1956), Vol. XXVII, p. 294L.

According to the Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel, “The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. . . . This Greek philosopher’s [Plato, fourth century B.C.E.] conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions.”—(Paris, 1865-1870), edited by M. Lachâtre, Vol. 2, p. 1467.

John L. McKenzie, S.J., in his Dictionary of the Bible, says: “The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of ‘person’ and ‘nature’ which are G[ree]k philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as ‘essence’ and ‘substance’ were erroneously applied to God by some theologians.”—(New York, 1965), p. 899.

Answer 5

Ok, instead of being anti church try to think why Christians would except this doctrine. Jesus called the Father God.. So far ok?.. Jesus said that He is the I AM... I AM is God... The Holy Spirit is refereed to as God by the Apostle Peter... If The Father is God, and Jesus is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, AND there is only one God... You pick the word for that I go along as long as all the above is held as truth. Because those doctrines were not invented at the council of Nicaea but are part of the Scripture... Jim

Answer 6

I personally dont care what "The Catholic Encyclopedia" admits. The Bible says 1 John 5: 7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

The 3 are One... a rose by any other name is still a rose.

Answer 7

The Trinity is the doctrine that there is one basically and authentic God, yet interior the cohesion of the Godhead there are 3 coeternal and coequal persons, a similar in substance yet different in subsistence. This concept isn't scriptural and may well be disproved with those uncomplicated verses: a million) Deuteronomy 6:4 hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: 2) John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and that they that worship him would desire to worship him in spirit and in actuality. 3) a million Timothy 3:sixteen And without controversy large is the secret of godliness: God became appear interior the flesh, justified interior the Spirit, considered of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on interior the worldwide, gained up into glory. 4) Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth each and all of the fulness of the Godhead actual. the single God, in each and every attainable concept of one, grew to alter into appear interior the call and individual of Jesus Christ. The Son of God isn't a undeniable being or center of conciousness comprising God, however the manifestation of God in human flesh. The Holy Spirit is God Himself, as revealed in John 4:24.

Answer 8

Yes

The Catholic Church was the only Church (with the exception of the Eastern Orthodox) for over 1500 years!

Answer 9

It's explained, most people haven't been guided to the truth.

[005:072] Surely, they have disbelieved who say: "God is the Messiah ['Îsâ (Jesus)], son of Maryam (Mary)." But the Messiah ['Îsâ (Jesus)] said: "O Children of Israel! Worship God, my Lord and your Lord." Verily, whosoever sets up partners (in worship) with God, then God has forbidden Paradise to him, and the Fire will be his abode. And for the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong doers) there are no helpers.

[005:073] Surely, disbelievers are those who said: "God is the third of the three (in a Trinity)." But there is no Ilâh (god) (none who has the right to be worshipped) but One God). And if they cease not from what they say, verily, a painful torment will befall on the disbelievers among them.

[005:074] Will they not turn with repentance to God and ask His forgiveness? For God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

[005:075] The Messiah ['Îsâ (Jesus)], son of Maryam (Mary), was no more than a Messenger; many were the Messengers that passed away before him. His mother [Maryam (Mary)] was a Siddîqah [i.e. she believed in the Words of God and His Books (see Verse 66:12)]. They both used to eat food (as any other human being, while God does not eat). Look how We make the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) clear to them; yet look how they are deluded away (from the truth).

Answer 10

The three parts of the Godhead all have their different roles in play, throughout the bible. If you study it, and never heard of the trinity, you would come up with it on your own, eventually. It is all there. The word, no, the actions and effects of the three parts of the God head, absolutely. So, your encyclopedia could be referring to when it was perhaps formally taught, or worded as such. However, no one, in century, stumbled upon it as a new idea to run with.