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I mean to prove that God created the universe, wouldn't we need to prove that there is a universe?

2006-12-30 06:33:05 · 23 answers · asked by TheNewCreationist 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

'What should I do Retard' - Your old nickname is 'Jim Darwin'. Why did you change it?

2006-12-30 06:43:12 · update #1

NoName - that was quick, first you were "Jim Darwin" when you first responded to this question, then you changed it to "What Should I Do Retard" and now you have changed your nickname yet again to "NONAME". How many times will you change your personna? Are you trying to hide something?

2006-12-30 11:38:14 · update #2

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The proof and evidence is all around you and everywhere, undeniable proof, and indisputable visible evidence. It is called creation and life. Unless your are blind, deaf, and senseless. You can see, smell, taste, hear, feel, and examine the evidence.
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We live on a planet teeming with life. Plant life with approximately 250,000 species, animal life with over a million species. Scientists are learning just how complex life is. So complex that it requires design. The evidence of design requires a designer. Scientists are also learning the conditions for life; just how perfect conditions here on planet Earth are to support all this life.
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The human brain, it absorbs forty megabytes per second of data while awake. That is two terabytes of data a day. At night, it sorts and stores that data through the creation of new chemical bonds and synaptic connectors.
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Sure, right, this all just happened and evolved. This sort of thinking takes considerable faith, exponentially more faith than believing in a creator.
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2006-12-30 06:34:51 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 4 3

Since you are obviously a believer in "creation," I take this to be bait. But what the hell, it's your dime.

I would suggest that what you see as "iron clad" logic is a cultural view that conveniently exempts itself from scrutiny- especially of the scientific variety. You imply that the universe as a whole has the same characteristics as, say, your watch - that is, since there are watches, if follows that some “watch maker” must have "created" them. Hence the universe, which is all around us, must have had a creator. But as I tire of telling students and others, a watchmaker creates NOTHING! He merely reorganizes EXISTING materials.

The fact is that your concept of “creation” is at best a dubious construct. It is an abstraction based on your day-to-day experiences. It’s an attempt to apply “common sense” to cosmology. And the problem with common sense is just that; it is common. It deals with how you should spend your days without getting run over by a bus, or falling off a cliff. But it is not a reliable guide to understanding fundamental physics – at any level.

2006-12-30 07:06:03 · answer #2 · answered by JAT 6 · 0 0

How can you come to the conclusion that God does not exist? Look around you... look at all the wonderful things that are created every single day. The world is full of beautiful things. Where do you think the Universe came from if God did not create it? The Universe had to come from somewhere. It is not logical to think that God does not exist. Think about it.

2006-12-30 06:43:44 · answer #3 · answered by Soul saviour 4 · 0 0

Yes, God does exist. Asking for proof is folly!
Even atheists and agnostics believe things they can't prove.
Why do you make plans for tomorrow. You can't prove that the sun will rise tomorrow? Yes, it has been proven that the sun has risen every day in our past....but there is absolutely NO proof it will rise tomorrow. You just have faith that it will.
Why do you believe that you have a heart inside your body? Yes, it has been proven that humans have hearts....but have you ever seen yours? Perhaps there is a troll inside your body squeezing a little rubber ducky to make your blood flow. You do not have proof but you have faith that you are like all other humans and have a heart.
You fight against the idea that there is a REAL God because that scares you. It would cramp your sinful lifestyle, open the question that you might have to suffer an eternity in Hell for your sins and, most importantly, make you out for a fool for denying God.
Christians believe in God by faith. Just because YOU choose not to believe the Truth does not mean it is not true.

2006-12-30 06:41:40 · answer #4 · answered by Chef Bob 5 · 0 0

1. You don't apparently know much about Logic...

2. You don't apparently know much about the Universe...

3. You don't apparently know much about God...

If you pose a question much like the question you pose, then are you not questioning: how can anyone logically come to the conclusion that 'something that one cannot prove the existence of using logic' actually exists?

If 'God' doesn't exist, then what is your question about? The phenomenon that others tell you that they believe exists? Well, then, surely it does exist...

I won't go on... but you're posing a question that is poorly formed, & if you form it well, you will find that one must first answer questions about language...

These questions about language should keep you going for a couple of decades...

& as for the dufus two or three posts up... Thomas A. never claimed he had developed a proof... he said that a proof was impossible... so stop yapping about what you've heard or read about & 'decided' represents an adequate 'understanding' of the work of people who you name-drop, you lazy butt...

2006-12-30 06:40:32 · answer #5 · answered by K V 3 · 0 1

Nobody can *logically* come to the conclusion that any kind of god exists. That doesn't prevent lots of people from reaching that conclusion, it just means that they didn't do it logically :)

And we have proven that the "universe" exists -- come on into my backyard observatory with me anytime, I'll let you look at several thousand galaxies that are all 4-10 billion light years away, I'll show you the structure of our own galaxy, I'll let you have close-up views of our neighboring planets...you can see the universe for yourself.
But the fact that the universe exists doesn't have anything to do with god -- there's no evidence of any kind that any "god" had anything to do with creating it. Its existence is explained quite nicely through physics, no need for any supernatural explanations.

2006-12-30 06:40:15 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

geez, you seem to have long surpassed by way of numerous hassle to coach you have faith. why no longer in basic terms say you have faith and be achieved with. ok, i in basic terms have been given so a procedures as examining your first clarification, so i'm going first of all that and basically assume that something of your arguements are as lame as that. on the the professor having a innovations... except you're an entire moron, you recognize that people can't function and not applying a innovations. for sure, on account that it is the professor of a school, i might assume he/she might have had to fulfill some form of tutorial requirement. that could have been impossible and not applying a innovations. the comparable can't be pronounced for the existence of a god. and please spare me the watchmaker tale. i'm going to cut back you off ultimate there and ask, who made the watchmaker? he had back from someplace too, did no longer he? the authentic religions are those we are able to maintain to ourselves.

2016-12-31 07:59:29 · answer #7 · answered by valaria 4 · 0 0

Philosophically Descartes has already proven the universe exists.

Scientifically the Hubble has already proven the universe exists.

Stephen Hawking has already proven the universe exists.

So the universe does exist.

Science can neither prove nor DISPROVE God made it. But the universe has been proven to exist

2006-12-30 06:40:24 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

there is this scientific experament in the Bible that proves God and Jesus live. If you follow the directions sincerely you will have the proof you speak of. Unfortunately the proof will be only for you, however everyone who does the experament according to the guidlines does get proof.

2006-12-30 06:37:41 · answer #9 · answered by icheeknows 5 · 1 1

The universe we can see and experience. And it may have been in existence forever.

Proving God is a little more difficult. We would need to figure out who created God.

2006-12-30 06:36:46 · answer #10 · answered by Honest Opinion 5 · 0 2

Read Romans 1:18-23, and the rest if you like. How could anyone "not" conclude that there is a God.

2006-12-30 06:38:15 · answer #11 · answered by Desperado 5 · 1 1

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