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Faith? Is there a logical way to conclude that God exists?


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2006-12-30 06:16:26 · 25 answers · asked by Eleventy 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Holy zero: Could you be any more specific? I doubt that all mathmeticians are Monotheist...

Emmy: Why? How would any person benefit from this?

Adore him: Why hasn't God given me faith?

Chef Bob: I consider myself a "logical person" but have not come to that conclusion. How have you?

2006-12-30 06:45:01 · update #1

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There is in fact no way to demonstrate the existence (or non-existence) of god. It logically follows that any such belief, in either way, is useless: it can have no effects of any sort in the real world. It is simpler to believe the negative, and not worry about it.

2006-12-30 06:27:56 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Well, I'm glad you asked this question. Let me state that I saw G-d initially in other people. I saw His love, made manifest. I did not, and have not thrown out the brains He gave me (nor would he expect me to). Read in the last chapter of Job (42:5) where Job replies "5 My ears had heard of you but now my eyes have seen you." In the 38 years since I became a believer, by accepting Yeshua Ha Maschiach as my savior, and L-rd), I have come to understand much. Some of it in the realm of apologetics, some in Christian living and some in biblical prophecy. You know, in the Proverbs for example, there is much in the way of wisdom. Some of it you may even recognize. You see much of the way that people are in many of the chapters of the bible, especially the Old Testament. If you read and study the New Testament, especially the letters of Peter, Paul, James and John and rely on the power of the Holy Spirit to guide you, you will gain so much in terms of relating to other people. But let's talk about knowing that G-d exists. I will share a link, but will relate the concept briefly here. It was just 33 years ago that I first encountered a poser. Take a sheet of paper and put nine dots evenly spaced in a 3 x 3 pattern. Next take a pencil, and without retracing over any lines or lifting the pencil from the paper, connect all nine dots with four straight lines. When you understand the soloution to this poser, you can also come to understand about G-d. Let me also suggest another analogy. Like the painter, parent, motion picture director, none of the foregoing (or any other similar) are bound by their creation. Neither is G-d. You cannot, for example, totally define who Picsso is by virtue soley of his paintings, nor me by my kids or Spielberg by Jaws. In other words, you cannot impose that which governs the creation on the creator. This is what most people try to do in comprehending G-d. Take a look then at the total complexity of the universe, and you have only a small taste and understanding of G-d. Take a look at not only the concrete, but at the abstract plus the concrete and you still have only a small glimpse and understanding of G-d. For frankly He created the concepts of concreteness and abstractness, as well as knowledge by which we know anything at all. When you can get your head around all of that, then you may have a grasp of the G-dhood and all that that entails.

2006-12-30 07:11:40 · answer #2 · answered by Peace W 3 · 0 0

Mine comes from 2 books:

1.The Book of Creation(lessons learned from the marvelous things we have and had nothing to do in creating them, nor any other individual for that part..
2. The Bible.

The Bible's faith is very differernt from what religion has taught people especially because of some of the nonsense doctrines that have no basis in the Bible doctrine.

(Hebrews 11:1) “11 Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld. . .”
The discovery of Pluto, was based on scientific faith("evident demonstration of realities" very much like the Bibles faith, is it not), cause and affect--
Pluto was known to be out there because of its affect on the orbits of the other planets.
There is basis, for believing in invisible forces, electromagnetic, gravity, enertia etc. If we belief such exist , why is it so hard to believe that the invisible Scientist is God. Please note Isaac Newton's simple presentation to an atheist friend:

*** gh chap. 6 p. 54 par. 10 The Source of Good News—“God” ***

Newton once had a skilled mechanic make for him a model of the solar system. Balls representing the planets were geared together so as to move realistically in orbit. One day an atheist friend visited Newton. On seeing the model, he operated it, and exclaimed in admiration, “Who made it?” Newton answered, “Nobody!” The atheist replied, “You must think I am a fool! Of course somebody made it, and he is a genius.” Newton then said to his friend, “This thing is but a puny imitation of a much grander system whose laws you know, and I am not able to convince you that this mere toy is without a designer and maker; yet you profess to believe that the great original from which the design is taken has come into being without either designer or maker

2006-12-30 08:20:02 · answer #3 · answered by THA 5 · 0 0

On the Science Channel, I saw photos of distant galaxies that are shrouded in some type of energy membrane. Some or all galaxies have Black Holes like the nuclei of a living cell. Our solar system lives inside a galaxy and there may be a black hole in its center.
They have a gravitational pull and eventually absorb surrounding galaxies. They go around the universe and coalesce with all the other galaxies and get bigger and bigger until only one omnipotent singular galaxy exists. Like watching an amoeba through a microscope.
Then It's supposed to change shape by collapsing in onto Itself becoming the Singularity. The Chicken/Hen becomes the Egg. Rosters don't lay eggs. Then there is an incubation period and it hatches out with a Big Bang and the theory of Creation by Evolution begins all over again.
Our Creator is at the end and the beginning of evolution but does not exist as one in the middle of evolution. She only exists in the laws of nature and physics and spirit.
I think we have like a God-zillion years left before that all happens. She left us plenty of signs and symbols of how we got here and how not to cause our own extinction prematurely. We have natural instincts and should try to reach the end of evolution together in peace.
I think our lives are recycled like Hers does and we are always renewed. We should not be held accountable for the sins of our fathers.
Don't let their curses scare you.

2006-12-30 07:25:09 · answer #4 · answered by fred r 3 · 0 0

There is no logical way to conclude that God exists.

"God exists because I believe that he exists" - well, I'll just believe that there is a purple hedgehog here on my desk. Would that make it exist?

"God exists because he told me so" - OK, then the hedgehog told me he exists.

"God exists because the Bible says so" - the DaVinci code says things too. It's just a book.

"God exists because this world is too magnificent to have been created at random" - well, that's what random is, something that happens despite the odds. What are the odds that an omniscient, omnipresent deity created the world? Perhaps not so good.

"God exists because my parents taught me that" - Did they also teach you about Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy? Because if they did, they have already proven that they are capable of convincing you to believe a lie.

Think about it. All that one can reasonably conclude is that the existence of god can be neither proven nor disproven, and that's where the debate ends.

2006-12-30 06:28:17 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

No, there is not a "logical" way to conclude this, because "logical" in todays society must be explained by math, reality, etc. All you have to do is have faith and the more you have the more you just know that He is there, and He is.
*Not seeing is believing!*

2006-12-30 06:25:52 · answer #6 · answered by Jess 4 · 0 0

My belief comes by looking at my little girl
Also he talks to chosen few and i do not doubt there validity because i had experiences that left me with no doubt that GOD and JESUS exist.You don't need a Rabbi to tell you he's real.Or a minister.They some think they were chosen by GOD some were some Fantasize about it.You'll know if they exist if you pray with faith and sincerity.Peace

2006-12-30 06:23:52 · answer #7 · answered by Victorio 2 · 0 0

No. There is no logical way to conclude that God exists. You must have faith.

2006-12-30 06:19:16 · answer #8 · answered by Morey000 7 · 0 0

I keep saying each of the time. God idea and Evolution idea are both real yet no human being listens. God created the Christians and apes created the atheists human beings. Now will we bypass on. Why received't all of us pay interest to me. Atheist human beings might want to not have a topic with this answer bcos i consider them.

2016-12-01 08:23:05 · answer #9 · answered by Erika 4 · 0 0

It is a gift of God. He gives us a measure of faith in Him and faith like a mustard seed can grow likewise. Faith comes by hearing and hearing a word about Christ / God.

The born of God experience starts with faith that Jesus Christ is Lord, the Son of the Living God. He shed His own blood to redeem us and raised from the dead for our justification.

2006-12-30 06:23:02 · answer #10 · answered by LottaLou 7 · 1 1

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