2006-12-20 05:34:15 · 10 answers · asked by smitty 7 in Sports ➔ Boxing
VERY GOOD BRENT, I TOLD YOU THAT YOU WERE AS GOOD AS ME.
LET'S HEAR FROM THE OTHER FOLKES, BACK PANTHER, SANATANA AND BRADSLEY AND SEVERAL OTHERS
2006-12-20 08:01:24 · update #1
Last call for some other peeps:
romeo
Frank D
Bobo
Rich A
Pancho
Cal Ben
sportlvr 4
COME ON OUT AND PLAY!!!!!!!
2006-12-20 11:57:28 · update #2
TO sportlvr - HIS NAME IS ALI NOT CASSIUS CLAY. LET TELL YOU SOME FIGHTERS THAT DIDN'T GO BY THEIR ORIGINAL NAMES JOE LOUIS, RAY ROBINSON, MARCIANO AND WALCOTT.
NUMEROUS ACTORS CHANGED THEIR NAMES.
PLEASE USE ALI WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE GREATEST.
2006-12-21 00:35:47 · update #3
I don't think anything that they could have told him would've helped. George was a slugger that was determined to knock Ali out and ALi was determned to absorb as much as possible without getting hurt to let George get tired. At which point he was going to take over the fight!
2006-12-20 07:34:55 · answer #1 · answered by J.C. 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
i definately agree that foreman was not motivated for this fight at all! no way did he fight ali the same way he did frazier or ken norton.
i've watched the rumble in the jungle so many times! not once did foreman throw a decent flurry of punches into ali's body, to be honest i think the rope-a-dope only caused foreman to tire out by 50%, the other 50% was just lazyness and foreman without heart or encouragement from his corner, a lack of fitness was the downfall for foreman, but WHY! why oh why did foreman not challange him for a rematch!clearly foreman was not fit for that fight in ziere
2006-12-20 14:30:29 · answer #2 · answered by Padie O Connor 1 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Hey Smitty thanks for the invite to play..I always felt Big Georges corner let him down but with a lot of Clays fights he dictated alot of what went on before and during a fight. He was instrumental in getting the fight to go on a2 am I know that was to also help the national television audience here in the states but there was too much extra activity going on Ali had hookers sent to Georges room at his hotel almost every night. I don't know if He partook in them. Look at the fight Ali used the ropes to his advantage also he leans on people and usually hit on the break. I'm not taking away from Clay he was a tremendous fighter but any ref should have cautioned him and deducted points. We all know George just punched himself out too. Ali could take the punishment...funny out of all the 70's fighters of notoriety of that day look how bad Ali is today. All of the fighters of his day took tons of punishment too and they seem to be unscathed.I know the Parkinson's did Ali in but all the head blows got to him and brought that on.
The fight you refer to was a masterful one but again most fighters for some reason 'Played into Clays hands" he certainly had that going for him
2006-12-20 17:22:22 · answer #3 · answered by sportlvr45 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I think it was George himself who let himself down, he let Ali's mind games get to him, his corner could of told him a thousand times to pace himself properly but he wouldn't of listened, he had one thing in his mind during the whole of that fight and that was to take Ali's head off.
Ali shouldn't of stood a chance in that fight and i believe he knew that, Alis tactics proved to all of us that fights can be won outside the ring as well as in them. Ali's display was in my mind without doubt the best display ever put up in a boxing ring and out by anyone, to beat George Foreman at that time was quite possibly the greatest achievement by any boxer ever.
I think Foremans corner would of been able to persuade Big George to calm down in any other fight apart from this one.
2006-12-21 01:55:48 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Smitty ~
Absolutely! I can't add much to Brents answer as a matter of fact I was going to quote the "Old Mongoose" too. The one thing that I will add as I'm sure you, Brent and Toughguy already know is that I think that the fight being postponed really messed big George completely up, I don't think the fight would have turned out the way it did if the fight happened when it was suppose to. What do you think?
Thanks for the question Smitty.
2006-12-20 11:08:02 · answer #5 · answered by Santana D 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Smitty, Brent is correct on this one as Moore did tell Saddler to instruct Foreman to use uppercuts to the body. I believe that Ali would have still won regardless.
2006-12-20 10:01:02 · answer #6 · answered by toughguy2 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Archie Moore talked about this years ago on NBC's Sportsworld on the 15th anniversary of the fight. Archie said that he tried to tell Dick Saddler to instruct Foreman to hit Ali with short uppercuts to the body with both hands. Saddler response to Moore was "well he doesn't seem to be listening to us so let him fight his own fight." That about sums it up.
2006-12-20 06:26:08 · answer #7 · answered by Brent 5 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Doesn't matter what Foreman or his corner did, Ali would have figured a way around it.
2006-12-20 18:13:46 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
I don't know but he was a witch supposedly put on a spell on him that's why he lost to Ali.
2006-12-20 07:31:08 · answer #9 · answered by tyrone b 6 · 0⤊ 2⤋
George would not listen to his corner men,he had a one track mind!!!!
2006-12-20 23:50:49 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋