Actually, it seems to work both ways here. We get a lot of meat eaters who come here to cause trouble, but we also seem to get a lot of angry and negative vegetarians, too. Both sides say that the other group attacks them and puts them down, so it's hard to say which camp is in the right -- if either.
I can tell you from observation that when one side says negative things about the other, it's not presenting a good argument for their viewpoint. Nobody likes to be attacked for their opinions, and it just leaves bad feelings without changing anybody's mind. That's why I try to stay positive when I discuss this subject and point out the good aspects of vegetarianism and veganism -- health benefits, efficient use of the planet's resources, financial savings, etc.
I admit that I like to mess with the minds of a couple of regulars here who make horses' rumps out of themselves, but even then, I try to avoid being nasty or crude. A well-placed joke can do a lot more to deflate someone's egotism than all the personal attacks ever could.
You're probably not going to convert all the meat eaters you know to your viewpoint. But if you avoid a negative attitude and don't insult others, I bet you'll find that people respond in a lot more positive way.
2006-12-13 10:40:52
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answered by Wolfeblayde 7
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I'm not against eating meat. I just think humans are doing it waaay wrong, and eating way too much meat.
The statement that vegitarians lack protein is a complete myth. I've been weight training for the past year on a vegitarian diet with great success.
We had the right idea 700 years ago. Go out into the wilderness, hunt down and shoot the animal yourself, bring it home to feed your family. Average diets were less than 10% meat though because it was and still is 17x more economically efficient to eat breads, roots, nuts, and vegetables.
Nowadays we burn the rain forests to make room (60% are GONE), raise the animal under complete control, thus preventing them from evolving, etc. Then we shoot the cows with hormones, giving you a dose as well from eating them.
2006-12-13 18:32:37
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answered by Ellis26 3
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Haha it's probably because they're different from vegetarians. People notice something different and so they pick at it to make fun. It's not right but they're not self-secure so they use difference to try to be "normal" and "cool".
Momofwobestkids has a point. I eat meat and my gf doesn't like to but I don't bother her about it. You said meat eaters put vegetarians down. Not all meat eaters do that. That's kinda sterotyping meat eaters. It's not really that they eat meat, it's more of the personality of that person. Someone who acts like this will probably pick out alot of stuff that is different from themself other than what type of food you eat. Food is food, God put it here for us to eat it and live. He also made us all different and gave us the choice to decide for ourselves. If everyone ate meat then there would be less diversity.
2006-12-13 18:04:56
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answered by xfootballstarx87 2
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Before I get started, I'd like to establish that you sound quite bitter, but not everybody feels that way. I can guess that whoever said this to you is a close acquaintance or family member. I don't have a problem with you not eating meat, however, meat has proteins and other nutrients that you can't get anywhere else. You may be able to get some of them from beans and vegetables, but not all of them, then you need to take supplements, which is pointless if you could just eat meat in the first place. Also, it makes sense that if you are willing to eat plants which are alive, why not meat also? A farm has cows as well as plants, but you're willing to eat one over the other. I've also seen some vegetarians who eat fish, which of course, makes no sense at all. The point is, how far are you willing to go to live up to the standards of vegetarianism? You won't eat a dead cow, but you're willing to make it live in an environment where it is in captivity to provide you with milk and cheese, personally, I'd rather put it out of its misery. You won't eat chicken, but you eat eggs either by themselves or as an ingredient in many recipes like bread. In my opinion, it's one way or the other. Enjoy the fruit and meat of the land, or take processed supplements to make up for what you can't eat because somehow, no matter how hard your try, you are killing something to live... it's just a matter of what you want to kill, something you can hear die, or something you're willing to ignore the fact that it's dying because you can't hear it.
2006-12-13 18:12:05
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answered by Gleebicus 3
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What kind of people are you talking to? I have never put anyone down for not eating meat. I have had vegaterians try and tell me horror stories while I am eating and I just say " I have not asked for your opinion now let me eat" Try this with these very rude people you are talking to. And don't try and argue I have found that doesn't really work with most people.
2006-12-13 18:07:13
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answered by butterflyaht1 3
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Vegetarians put the meat-eaters down too. Some extreme vegans make stupid excuses to harass meat-eaters. Being a vegetarian is a choice; eating meat is a priority.
2006-12-13 20:27:57
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answered by nobodyd 7
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Hi Shalena (nice name!), I totally agree with you. I think lots of people are just trying to make excuses because they like the taste of the meat. I wish they would just be honest without having to resort to idiotic rationalization about how "God meant us to eat meat" etc. And these people don't know that there are some religions that discourage meat-eating.
2006-12-13 18:10:35
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answered by Anonymous
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Your question shows that you judge people who eat meat for their choices, why would you expect any other behavior from them?
Sure, one's diet is a personal choice, but everyone doesn't need to get so defensive that they on offensive against those who are different.
I chose not to eat meat in 1970, because it seemed disgusting TO ME. I do not have the right to make anyone else's food choices for them.
I have children who grew up to be vegan. They started out eating what I do, dairy , eggs, beans and lots of plant material. As they grew up, they tried all kinds of meat and whatever. That was their choice.
Don't be so judgemental. It is not becoming. It doesn't persuade anyone because it's offensive.
2006-12-13 18:09:40
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answered by Susan M 7
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you are exactly right.see how defensive most of the meat eaters got.it is human nature to do that,rather than think and then act,they act and then think,most not even reaching the thinking.right away people defended their meat eating ways,rather than thinking about the suffering they are contributing to and then trying to change,.no,instead they are quick to defend eating meat,and the arguments used against vegetarianism are easily spottable,because they are so weak.No logical person would ever say that plants have feelings,but when they are defnding their meat eating ways they will reach for and use such a ridiculous idea to defend there actions.they feel the need to defend themselves,they know what they are contributing to,rather than trying to stop they will come up with something to defend their current practice.when someone else thinks were doing something wrong,we get quick to defend ourselves rather then rethink our actions and change,as many people continue to do by eating meat.even if they like it,that doesn't make it okay,if someone likes molesting kids,that doesn't justify their actions.we are at the top of the food chain,but that doesn't make it okay to do what we feel and please.just because they are weaker doesn't mean we should expoit them,if that were true then it would be okay to exploit the disabled and infants.those "canine teeth" aren't canine teeth,gorillas have them too.god did not put animals on earth for us to eat them,most of the people who say that aren't even religous,and if god gave animals the gift of life,that would be wrong of us to take that away just to please our tastebuds.the animals wouldn't "roam" the earth and takeover or overpopulate,cows are artificially pregnated by a person.the person orders the sperm,the person puts a glove on and impregnants the cow.even having a "live and let live" policy isn't that justifiable.if someone said to you " if don't beat or starve your dog,that's fine,but don't tell me not to beat or starve mine" wouldn't you still report them to the police?but I do live by a live and let live policy,most of us used to eat meat,and we stopped because we learned from others by example,we saw they had compassion and wanted to make a difference,we stopped eating meat to strive for that also,we didn't stop eating meat because someone told us to stop eating it,we did it to make a change,it was a personal choice,not something we were forced into.i just try to influence others to reduce there meat intake or at least introduce them to vegan foods.i've even inspired a few peopleto steer towards vegetarianism.the best way to lead is by example,not by force
edit:george is completely far off fromthe truth,you do not need protein supplements.meat isn't the only thing with protein.Most people eat way to much protein(at least in America).
2006-12-13 19:11:41
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answered by Anonymous
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Sometimes when people say things like that, it's just a way for them to push the issue away. Because if they REALLY thought about it, there's no reason to eat meat (odd medical issues excluded, lol). So I guess it's just a defense shield, in a sense. Put others down to make yourself feel better, kinda thing. I don't like it, either. :(
2006-12-13 18:08:35
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answered by Stina 5
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