If it wasn't from God, where did everything come from?

Question

Science tells us that all the stars and galaxies are moving in an outward direction...like when you drop a pebble in the water, there's an outward rippling motion. Only the universe is moving outward in all directions. This is evidence that it all began from one point. Most of us know the big bang theory, that extremely hot, condensed gases smaller than a pinhead exploded, forming the universe. While that fits with the motion and composition of the universe, from where did the gases originate?

No one created God. God is self sufficient. He is called the I AM because he is the all present, all knowing, eternal God. About the watch thing... all that proves is that someone intelligent had been there. And maybe someone intelligent before that, and before that. You kind of made my point.
But no one is answering the question....if it wasn't from God, then where did it all come from? "Nobody knows" is a LAME answer.

A previous universe? then where did that come from? Where did the VERY beginning of everything come from? How can atheists be positive it wasn't God, yet have no idea how it did happen...hmmm...I wonder.

atheist - a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.

agnostic - a perso who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause as a god or God, and the essential nature if things are unknown and unknowable.

It sounds as if some of you are agnostic, rather than atheistic, which to me, is more understandable.

I don't believe the God of the Bible is the creator, solely because the Bible says so. The reasons are innumerable why I believe it. I will post some of the reasons on my 360 Yahoo site. But that's not the point here.The point here is that everything came from something,and if you want to include God, fine. I do not. Science, reason, and logic, tell us that everything physical had a beginning, somehow, somewhere. But God, whomever you may choose him or her to be, does not have to be limited by time. He or she is not physical and is outside of time, is eternal. That's logical thinking. For now, forget the Bible...is a creator a possibility?

Answer 1

God created everything, the things unseen and the things seen

Answer 2

No one knows. There are several ideas that are floating around right now, including various incarnations of the multiverse concept.

The difference between the theist or deist and the atheist is this...

The theist sees something they don't know or understand and they say, "God did it."

The atheist sees something they don't know or understand, and they say, "I don't know."

Whether you think it is a lame answer or not is irrelevant. It is the honest answer scientifically. A lame answer to science is that a being there is no evidence for did it, and that being is above science and has always just been. And I know he has always just been because the Bible tells me so. And I know the Bible is true because I feel it is true, and because the Bible says the Bible is true. I have no testable, verifiable evidence, but I think YOUR explanation is lame. So there.

You have not been paying attention. Atheists do not have to be "positive" that god does not exist. They do not have to say they KNOW there is no god. Most of us think rationally and simply lack belief until there is evidence to believe. And by evidence, we mean testable, verifiable evidence.

Agnosticism (if you will look at your own definitions there) is about knowledge - that no one can know whether god exists or not.

Belief is entirely different. I am an agnostic, because I hold that one cannot know for sure whether a god or gods exist. I am also an atheist because I do not believe a god or gods exist, and I won't until there is evidence for it.

I also cannot know whether there is a teapot orbitting the sun between Saturn and Uranus, but until I have evidence that there is one, I do not believe in the orbitting teapot.

Saying that everything comes from something, and that god didn't come from something is not logical thinking. It is giving the concept of god a "get out of logic free" card.

I can imagine a multiverse, a cyclical system of universes being born and dying, expanding and contracting, back and forth, constantly... why is it that the natural realm of this multiverse can't be eternal? Even with your "logic" there are other explanations, you see. Our universe is doesn't seem to be eternal, but the idea of a multiverse from which it sprang is another thing altogether.

Until we have more evidence, the intellectually honest answer is still, "I don't know."

Answer 3

and i feel like an utter idiot but must answer;
where did god come from. if the universe needs somewhere to come from, so does god.
if u deny that fact ur logic is half baked. if "No one created God. God is self sufficient. He is called the I AM because he is the all present, all knowing, eternal God" is ur idea of logical then no reason the universe can't just be is there either.

nobody knows at the moment and no tellin when or if we ever will know where the universe came from. we have to be able to leave the universe to answer ur question, and until then, hang on.

the bible IS NOT PROOF OF ANYTHING. it was written by men, gullible ones at that. same goes for the quran. i have nothing against any religion, but a millenia old book written by our own mortal ancestors proves nothing.
or do u still think the world is flat.

Answer 4

Were NOT saying we know everything about our universe YET but we can change our opinions on it bc we don't believe in a book that tells us to believe in it. But this is the more logic answer The particles of matter that started the big bang came from smaller particles of matter, which came from smaller particles of matter which came from even smaller particles of matter.

You may say "were did the smallest matter come from" and that would be like saying what is the the smallest number you can think of.

To prove this take any # (ei:4) and then divide it by any other # (ei:2) over and over again
4/2=2
2/2=1
1/2=.5
.5/2=.25
.25/2=.125
.125/2=.0625
Do this over and over again and then and you will see that it wil never end the # will just get smaller and smaller. This is why we cant tell exactly

Answer 5

There is one theory that is less conventional and still being debated that all of the matter that composes our universe had all come together into a point that was so dense that it caused the laws of physics to cancel out. Think about that, all of the mass in our univers converged on one point, the density must have been incredible. Then with all of that pressure, it burst forth, and viola, our universe was born. Some people think that this process has happened several times before, and inevitably our universe might come back together and repeat the process.

Answer 6

No scientist knows or presumes to know. The reason is because the laws of physics break down at the point of infinite density. The laws of physics were essentially created when the "Big Bang" event took place. We cannot use the laws of physics to describe the reason something happened when that *something* took place at a time when the laws of physics didn't exist.

Answer 7

this is circle logic.

if you believe that everything that exists must have been created by something, that law applies to the creator as well. which means that the creator had to have been created by something else, and that creator had to have been created by something else, etc etc. it's an infinite loop.

also...from what i understand, fundamental physics tells us that energy cannot be created nor destroyed. so, where did all this energy come from in the first place?

i believe we lack the capacity to fully understand our universe and our origins and the origins of everything in our realm of reality. perhaps man-kind will reach that height some years from now or perhaps not. but as it stands, there is no proof of anything in this world.

Answer 8

I personally think that matter has been around forever. The singularity would have been the result of a previous universe, just as gravity will one day pull our's into one. But then again, Western religions never did really get the idea of cyclical existance...

- Atmadeepo Bhava -

Answer 9

No one knows, but it's pretty silly to think some old white guy with a beard did it. And, if God created the universe, then what created God? If the watch requires a watchmaker, then a watchmaker requires an even more extraordinary watchmaker, and so on.

Besides, even if you, as Einstein did, call the universe itself God (and he, by the way, did not believe in YOUR god), what makes the God of Abraham that specific God? Why not Baal or Poseidon or Zeus? Why is Yahwey the creator of the Universe, when Zeus is even more impressive?

Answer 10

Well I do agree with you, that these things has been created by ALLAH as it is mentioned in the Holly Quran, that ALLAH has created the universe and still expanding it.
In another Surah ALLAH mentioning that the Sky and the earth " were smoke / gas " and were one unit then has split .

There several verses talking about universe creation in Holly Quran and expansion of the universe.
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Answer 11

If there is a god what created him? See how belief in god still leaves questions. Oh and don't say he created himself because by that logic you can say the Universe did the same thing.