has no record of him. I would think anyone that live in his city would write that the supposed living god live down the street. only christians documents talk about him and most were made far after he even supposedly lived?
2006-12-01 18:08:43 · 16 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Umm check again.
Roman records have his death by crucifixion documented, even stating that his crime was claiming to be King of the Jews.
His birth records are recorded in Jewish temple records and they still do not accept him as their Savior, but a trouble maker.
There are way more, and you can find them by a simple web search.
His existence is not in question. His claim of being our Savior is to some, but not me.
2006-12-01 18:14:06 · answer #1 · answered by cindy 6 · 4⤊ 0⤋
Where are the non-christian documents? Let's consider...
Where did Jesus live? He was born in Bethlehem, he lived in Egypt for a while and then later, Nazareth. This was all during the first 30 years.
The people of in Israel were not Christians, but Jews. There were no Christians until Jesus began his ministry after the age of 30. Jesus was born a Jew. Jewish custom was to record the geneaological tree - it was their custom and their sacred duty - not really the concern of any non-Jews at the time.
Jesus was not recognized as the Son of God or even as a prophet by his neighbors for they had seen him grow from a boy to a man and they recognized him only as a carpenter.
Jesus said, "A prophet has no honor in his own house, family, or town." For the prophet seems but common to those who live beside him, though the work of God is in the heart of the man. But Peter saw with his spirit and proclaimed to Jesus, "You are the Christ! The long awaited Messiah!"
Why would anyone write down about Jesus from his hometown when they had no particular interest in him? It was the other cities which drew the multitudes to see Jesus heal, speak and debate.
If you want to find extra-religious documents about such things, it's just not possible. Documentation about the Jews was limited to family geneaology and the Holy Scriptures that the scribes would take painstakingly great care to write by hand. In fact, it was the Jewish nation that consistently utilized hand-written documentation of historical information centuries before other cultures. A scholar will appreciate the accurate historicity of the accounts of the Scriptures. Note that they are impartial so far as to accurately portray even the most heinous sins and crimes of their own people, and speak a consistent message and doctrine from various authors.
The closest to a non-Jewish record of Jesus I could suggest, is that at the time of Jesus' birth, there was a census taken by the Roman government, but even if that census document survived, Jesus would not have been more than an infant to be named.
The historicity of Jesus of Nazareth may be challenged by skeptics, however, there is overwhelming evidence that the man who changed the whole world did in fact exist. That is not the true point. Those who doubt his historicity, so I believe, are really struggling against Christ himself. No other name on earth stirs up such a commotion than Jesus Christ. So ask yourself, what is the question that you are really asking?
2006-12-01 19:07:29 · answer #2 · answered by thewoodenboy 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I thought the four gospels were meant to be those documents, the requirements are 2 or 3 witnesses.
If the people of today were told he lived down the street, they would not believe it any more today than then.
Some one said about the same thing about Noah, but Jesus said, as with the second coming of Jesus it will be as a theif in the night, it will be like in the days of Noah, no one pays attention, no one will believe a word. All any one giving the word does is clear his own self. Matt.24:3-36,38;
2006-12-01 18:14:33 · answer #3 · answered by jeni 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The Romans did a census that includes Joseph, Mary and Jesus. There are Roman records of that era and they do mention Jesus. Pontius Pilate was an official, some documents from his
time are extant. The people to whom Jesus preached were largely poor and illiterate. The local officials were from certain Jewish sects, and over them the Romans who were fanatical record keepers. What do you think they keep in the Vatican?
2006-12-01 18:25:47 · answer #4 · answered by Susan M 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Have you actually seen EVERY document ever written in Jerusalem between 4BC and 33AD? No.
Do you really know that none of them mention Jesus? No.
Even His disciples didn't really believe until after He was resurrected.
Is it possible that only an actual eyewitness to the risen LORD would be bold enough to stand against the religious and governmental establishment, risking death, and go on record to say and write that Jesus was indeed God?
2006-12-01 18:17:31 · answer #5 · answered by revulayshun 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
He did no longer have time to place in writing books, He favorite a extra direct physique of techniques. additionally returned then writing a e book replaced into high priced. So on account that all the money that He and His disciples had that the place no longer spend on nutrition the place given to the undesirable you may think of why they won't write. After the resurrection whilst apostles the place deliver into the worldwide among the human beings who have been given switched over the place additionally those with financial opportunities that invested into the church. it quite is the reason the letters from the apostles are extra constructive preserved. maximum of what's written in the Bible could be validated by skill of roman historians. additionally there are memories from people who have been given switched over. No data from the jews exists as a results of fact they had to bury the situation. They the place shamed yet what got here approximately and all they needed replaced into that those activities be forgotten as right now as obtainable. To this they resorted to threats and later to torture and homicide. additionally that they had an inclination to harm any checklist that pronounced Christ. It replaced into your undemanding cover up.
2016-10-17 14:40:07 · answer #6 · answered by Erika 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
And remember the "massacre of the innocents" that Herod ordered? NO record of that! Even when Josephus is recording how horrible Herod was, he lists the beheading of John the Baptist as an example but leaves OFF the massacre of the innocents. (Kind of like a historian now saying how horrible Hitler was but forgetting to mention the holocaust.)
Weird stuff!
2006-12-01 18:13:05 · answer #7 · answered by Black Parade Billie 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
How could a none Christian document have a record of him. Can't you see if it had a record of him it wouldn't be a none Christian document.
Merry Christmas XX Betty.
2006-12-01 18:16:35 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Well, Not a lot of people could wright back then. The ones that could wright and did not believe in Jesus would of not cared to wright about Him.
The Christens that wrote about Jesus were His followers.
2006-12-01 18:19:23 · answer #9 · answered by Preacher's Daughter 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Well there are a few mentions of Jesus's followers by nonchristians here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus#Non-Christian_writings
2006-12-01 18:15:49 · answer #10 · answered by Roman Soldier 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋