why does the bible hate women and suport slaves????

Question

women should remain silent in the churches,they are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the LAW says, if they want to inquire about something they should ask their husbands at HOME. for it is a disgracefor a women to speak in the church.
1 corinthians 14

let a women learn in silence with all submissiveness. I permit no women to teach or have authority over MEN; she is to be kept silent

1 tim 2

bid slaves to be submissive to their masters and to give satisfaction in every respect they are not to be refactory, not to pilfer, but to show entire and true fidelity

titus2:9

these are all in the new testament so I don't want to hear oooo jesus died for our sins

Answer 1

Because man wrote it.

Answer 2

It's true that the bible is written in a cultural context much different from our own, and these do not apply to us. Many Christians agree that these are not examples of Godly behavior, so don't throw Christianity out completely on these alone. It's a strong argument against belief that the bible is inspired by God and is without error.

The first passage is an answer to a question. Paul was faced with the question, "How are we to hold a church service when the people who do not know what's going on keep speaking up during moments of silence?" Paul answered that they should be silent and ask their questions at home. Of course, these were the people who were not allowed an education - the women. It was a gender oppressed society. It's sad that they were not more enlightened.

The other quotes are just direct examples of why that society was barbaric.

Answer 3

This was not the original way that God intended. Woman and man were originally on equal authority levels. But in the story of Adam and Eve it was Eve who was first tricked into sinning and then to make things worse she went and pursuaded Adam to sin as well. Thus for Eves actions God made men as head of a household. This doesnt mean the bible says women cant talk, but if a man and woman couple are in a church and teaching is required, this shoudl be done by the head of the household.


And about the slave stuff. Notice that all of the verses regarding slavery is addressed to the slaves themselves and not to masters. God new that throughout history his people would be persecuted and enslaved. While in this state of affairs, God has giving instructions for proper conduct as slaves. This was needed becasue many people wanted to strike out and klill their masters or do great wrongs to them

Answer 4

You've got to take the entire Bible to explain itself.
You can't just take that one text to say 'the Bible supports slaves'.
The whole guidance on the slave/master relationship seems to be saying 'slavery is something that happens; slaves behave yourself, and do the work you have to do; masters, treat your slaves well'.

You have to remember that at the time, slavery was not seen as an evil. In a few thousand years' time, people may well look back at life in the USA in 2006 and say 'how could employers be so barbaric as not to pay their employees a decent wage, or provide them with access to medical insurance?', but those 2 issues are a fact of life in the USA, and that's how the country is run; it's a fact of modern life.

Look at these other slavery references for a more rounded picture:

Ephesians 6:5
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ ...
9
And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.

Colossians 4:1
Masters, provide your slaves with what is right and fair, because you know that you also have a Master in heaven

1 Peter 2:13
Submit yourselves for the Lord's sake to every authority instituted among men: whether to the king, as the supreme authority...
17
Show proper respect to everyone...
18
Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh

Answer 5

The first one is talking about several women causing problems in a certain church. The same new testament ( and the same writer of that verse) applaudes certain women teachers in another book. The passage about the slaves is talking about a different type of slavery than we knew two centuries ago in the U.S. It was more like a employee / employer relationship with fewer occupational rights for the employee. Check the religious believes of Abraham Lincoln, William Wilberforce, and Martin Luther King: the three big leaders of the fight to free minorities from slavery and civil mistreatment in the western civilization.

Answer 6

The bible was written by men except for Ruth and Esther. These men were probably wealthy and had slaves. My reasoning behind this is that only the wealthy were able to learn how to read and write at that time. They wrote a book that stated that they had power over everyone in their household. All children, wives, and slaves were under their complete control. It made the lives of these men better, because their power was not challenged by the majority of the population. They put some things in about the virtues of being poor to gain influence over the poor men. So basically they had influence over everyone except the other wealthy men.

Answer 7

I think you have it a bit wrong... no offense!

Galatians 3:28 - There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

The Bible doesn't hate women! God created an order in the family - the man is the head of the home and the woman is his equal partner. There are so many amazing stories of women whom God used to do his work - think of Ester, Ruth, Dorcas, Mary, Martha, etc. etc. etc.!!

In terms of slavery, it was a reality in the time of the writing of the new testament, so Paul had to advise those who were believers who were also slaves how they were to relate to their "masters" - this is not an endorsement of slavery, it's just direction on how to act when you are living with the reality.

Unfortunately, I sense that you are trying to use the Bible against itself? This can't be done. Taking passages out of context is unwise - you have to look at the whole passage and also consider the societal/cultural context and ask more "why" questions.

God bless you on your quest.

Answer 8

The bible doesn't hate women nor does it support slaves. That scripture in Corinthians have been misunderstood for a long time. If you do your research on the times that they(the Corinthians) were in, it was a lot of chaos going on during that time, to keep down confusion in the Church it was suggested that the women just keep quiet and to ask questions of their husbands once they got home.

In reference to slaves, it means those who have rule over you
(your bosses while you are at work, your pastors, those in authoritative positions)

Jesus did die for our sins. The enemy came to kill, steal and to destroy, but Jesus said, I come that they might have life and have it more abundantly.

Answer 9

I understand the scriptures you cite about women to specifically apply to teaching and spiritual instruction in the congregation. And in fact Paul's first letter to Timothy, chapter 3, regarding the qualifications for the overseers of the congregation, specified men, not women, would hold these positions.

I would not say the Bible hates women. Eve was created as a complement of Adam, i.e man is incomplete without woman, and vice versa.

There are many examples of favorable portrayals of woman in the Bible, including Rahab, Deborah, Jael, Ruth, Esther, etc.

Early in his ministry, Jesus openly revealed himself as the Messiah to the Samaritan woman, something he had not even told his disciples yet. This was a double whammy from the standpoint that Jews did not have dealings with Samaritans in general (no prejudice on Jesus' part) and at that time women were looked down upon (his own disciples were wondering why he was talking to her!).

The first witnesses to the resurrected Jesus were women. (Jewish tradition at the time held women were unworthy of being legal witnesses.)

In his letters Paul himself praised women who worked along side him in the ministry (for instance Euodia, Syntyche, and Phoebe).

In the first century, both women and men received the holy spirit as prophesied in Joel (Acts 2:17,18)

All Christians, male and female, have the assignment from Christ to make disciples. (Matthew 28:19, 20; Matthew 24:14; Psalm 68:11)

The headship and responsibility for teaching in the congregations is assigned to men. Take this as you will; you can view this as the inspired word of God if you like or the personal opinion of a first century missionary....

Note 1 Corithians 14: 33 starts out by saying God is a God not of disorder, but of peace. If you are looking at this scripture from the standpoint of it being God's inspired word, then the conclusion should be that this is how God has decided to order the congregation.

As far as slaves go, in the first century some Christians were slaves (and some Christians owned slaves, see Philemon). Paul was here counseling those Christians who were slaves how they should act in their position. Just because they became Christian did not free them from their position in the society of that time. Why did Paul provide this application of Christian principles? The last part of verse 10 you omitted. From the NIV:

"Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them, and not to steal from them, but to show that they can be fully trusted, so that in every way they will make the teaching about God our Savior attractive."

So there was purpose to this.

While not the exactly the same situation, today this advice can be applied to the employer-employee relationship. Employers are generally impressed by Christians who work diligently, don't steal from their employer, and demonstrate that they can be trusted.

Answer 10

1. you have to look at the context surrounding the scriptures. as in corinthians, this is a letter to a certain church that is having problems. it was not meant as women should not speak in church for all of christianity, it was pertaining to a sertain problem they were having.

2. the scripture following wives submit to husbands says for husbands to do the same for they are combining to form a union and becoming one flesh.

people like to single out certain words and phrases and not look at the context or the circumstances surrounding the book and who wrote it.

Answer 11

It was written by men in a time when women had no rights by law and slavery was also part of the law at that time.

Below is the King James Version, New American Standard version, American Standard version, and the basic English bible in that order.

The scripture is from the Acts of the Apostles Chapter 21 Verse 24
K.J.:
Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.
N.A.S.:
take them and purify yourself along with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave their heads; and all will know that there is nothing to the things which they have been told about you, but that you yourself also walk orderly, keeping the Law.
A.S.:
these take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges for them, that they may shave their heads: and all shall know that there is no truth in the things whereof they have been informed concerning thee; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, keeping the law.
B.E.:
Go with these, and make yourself clean with them, and make the necessary payments for them, so that they may be free from their oath: and everyone will see that the statements made about you are not true, but that you put yourself under rule, and keep the law.

Hope this helps