Do Christians suffer from a limited perception of God?

Question

Accepting the idea that there is a God who is:

a. Omnipotent
b. Omniscient
c. Immortal

You have to accept a few other things also. There is nothing that you do that he didn't know you'd do before he'd even created you. In fact, there is no variable to who you are because God created you in a way that would end up with X result. So the whole concept of freewill goes out the window.

There is no way that you could please this God, because there is nothing that you can do that will benefit him or surprise him in anyway. He basically made you to end up with X result.

Christians often talk about how they had a laugh with their God for X reason, but the reality is that there isn't a joke God hasn't seen or already heard. In fact, considering the repetitiveness of human nature, the joke you thought was funny, was probably one he heard or seen a million times before. Jokes get old.

Mans little successes won't get God excited either. Again we suffer from the redundancy of our own small victories. So for example, I quit drinking beer, so I’m thrilled and my God is thrilled also right? No. God has seen people quit every drug and every vice known to man. There is no vice man has that God hasn’t already seen beaten a million times. There is nothing that benefits God about you overcoming you vice.

God has been around for eternity. This means that he must have had an infinite number of projects before us. What ever happened to his last projects? Are they in Heaven? Or are they obsolete like we’ll be after a billion years.

Why would a God who has been around forever let himself be ruled by his emotions? He’s been around so long and yet he allows Satan to tempt him. He gets furious and sporadically destroys a nation and is always “looking for love”. These are definite signs of a bipolar neurotic megalomaniacal sociopath all in one.

Why is a God who is all powerful, all knowing and eternal looking to create beings that tell him how great he is? Is this an insecurity issue here? Does an all powerful God need our moral support for us to say “What a great guy you are”?

What is the logic that God is a man? Does he reproduce sexually? He’s been around forever and has a penis. It’s a bit odd don’t you think? So even though women had been around for only 6000 years God has had this penis for infinite years before that.

If a Christian ever question their belief then maybe they’d have some answer for these questions, but I guess it’s the old “God said it, I heard it, case closed” that keeps them blind. I guess that’s why they call it blind faith.

Answer 1

i think no human could have a complete view or concept of God, and most of us only see a very small idea of what God could be. We can only see a very small part of this universe, and we know that there are infinite universes out there- both on a larger and smaller scale.

Religions offer comfort and a way, a path to help one have an experience of God. I agree that they are all deeply flawed. and often misused as a way to gain control and power. people like structure, they want to be told what to do- to be parented.

also the definition of God is the key to your questioning above. to Christians, God is a being with very human-like qualities. to really think about omnicient, omnipresent, immortal, and eternal- to really ponder what that means- then the small ideas about God begin to unravel, and you wake up- unless it's too scary for you to do so.

either way- God doesn't really care, at least that's what i think

what if we all were God...cells in the body of God, creating infinite experiences into eternity? and that none of it really matters, in the grand scheme of things, and at the same time everything has only the meaning we give to it.

Answer 2

Wow..lot to respond to- First off God isn't a man-said make man in our image-but definatly not a man. Does a parent need to hear theat their children loves them? Yes-not that they have an ego problem-but it's nice to hear you are appreciated. Think of a spouce who does the dishes all the time without being asked. Might happen for many years-but those couple of times that someone notices and says thanks are the times that stick out in their minds. If you have a kid get an "A" grade on the honor role and they have so for the past 10 reports as all your other kids have-you still get excited right? What loving parent wouldn't? It's not that we surprise God-it's that he's happy to see that we are living the life that He planned for us- The free will concept means that the plan set out for us can be altered-God knows this can happen- and will try and stop it-but He won't change are free will. You will say-see not all powerful-but it's because He sdoesn't want us to be His little puppets with no lives of our own-He wants to CHOOSE Him-not be forced to. The laugh people talk is when they see something that God planned that they didn't see- for instance- if a parent tell a kid that if they play with fire they'll get burned and the kid lights a match and holds it too long and the parents sees and give them the "I told you so" look- They both laugh. Not at the fact that the kid was hurt but that the parent was right but the kid needed to learn for themselves. Last one was a bad analogy-but I'm tired today and it is a long ques...

Answer 3

God has, apparently, mastered Einsteins relativity or the Unifed Field Theory long ago, hence God can transcend dimensions and go from being somewhat corporail to spiritlike.

God changes states from energy to matter.

E=MC2 Energy is mass at square light speed and as Einstein showed if you wre 15 when your 33 year old mother travelled to Centarui at half the speed of light for a one time circle of the system and returned to Earth you would be 34 and she would only be about 33 1/2 years old.

Answer 4

Wow long post.
No, I dont limit God. And knowing an outcome, does not control it. God may KNOW our choices, before we make them, but we still choose them, he does not force us in either direction. He did not make us to end up with X result, he knew what it would be, but we ourselves control it. And when we do what is right, he IS pleased. Just like if I, as a parent, am pleased to see my child make the right choices.

If you want to hear God laugh tell him your plans. Ever notice how what you plan isnt always what happens? Gods little joke on us. All my children, were Gods little jokes on me.

If anyone is limiting God, its you. He cant be pleased, He cant think anything is funny. You are bringing him down to a human level, thinking of him like he is one of us, the way a human man may react. He is NOT one of us, he is more just, powerful and loving than we could ever have enough knowledge to be.

But good luck with that anyway.

Answer 5

Human beings "suffer" from a limited perception of God. The definition you list is that of a "supernatural" God. I choose to define God as the "natural". When I know absolutely everything that can be known, then I will be able to "perceive God". As this will never happen, I'm not worried about it. Being able to pay my bills is another matter.

Answer 6

It's called free will because we choose the paths we take in life, and God still loves us, even tho we make stupid mistakes. We are, after all, merely human. As far as pleasing God, He referred to David as a man after His own Heart. No one, I don't care who you are, is all good. That is why Jesus came to save us, and to plead for our lives. Ever since Eve bit into that apple, we have been making our own decisions. But, why would anyone want to surprise God anyway? He has offered all of us a choice; follow Him, or not. It's entirely up to the individual. He doesn't force us, but wants us to come to Him. And yes, He knows who will accept Him and who won't, but it doesn't stop Him from asking. Good Luck!!!

Answer 7

You are caught up in the world's view of God.
Colossians 2:8
8See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits[a] of the world, and not according to Christ.

You are trying to analyze something that does not need analyzing nor does it change God- or those who love Him. God is our Lord and Savior. The most important thing you will ever know is salvation through Him.

Answer 8

Most definitely, I think that we all do. To contemplate upon the nature of God is to gaze deeply into the facets of a bodiless jewel.

Answer 9

Are you God? NO... so quit acting as if you know who God is.
So if God created me to love righteousness than that is what I love. If God created you to hate the truth, then don't complain, because that is what you want to. Does he know everything that will happen, Yes, but does that mean that it doesn't please him? How would you know. If you knew your boss was going to give you a million dollars would you not be pleased. We do have free-will. Just because God made us, doesn't mean he choses everything we have to do. His knowing does not change our decisions.

Answer 10

It's both limited and too expansive. Those 3 elements in one god are irreconcilable with the world we live in if you assume that he is also all good.

But he doesn't exist anyway so it's moot.