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2006-11-23 21:50:07 · 26 answers · asked by Mr Hex Vision 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

CaLaCo: No you have the question wrong, I'm suggesting that your not mine, belief/religion is wrong

2006-11-23 21:59:02 · update #1

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"Now the mind is a very peculiar instrument in that once it picks up an idea from any source, from the worst possible source, once a mind picks up an idea, it tends to become possessive over it. It tends to say, 'Ah, this is my idea.' Then it goes to the next stage and says, 'This is not only my idea, but my life depends upon following it, believing it, protecting it.' And regardless of how nonsensical, how self-destructive these ideas may be, human beings will fiercely protect them thinking - listen to this please - thinking that they are protecting their own life when all it is is picking up a collection of ideas that have made them what they are today."
--Vernon Mowisdom

What is it about a belief (especially a religious belief) that causes people to be unable to have a rational unemotional discussion about the validity of that belief? The normal reaction to any attempt to confront a strong ingrained belief, even those based upon nothing other than pure repetition (or those acquired without any independent thought) is to reject any alternative idea without much (if any) consideration. “No, no, I don’t want to hear it” or “what I believe is true and that’s final”, are the boiler plate responses often given. Alternatively, some people offer up their beliefs like dirty laundry. Suddenly they’re shaving their heads in some cult drinking Kool-Aid. The reason I believe each of these phenomenon’s occur is basically the same. In the first instance your biological programming tells you instinctively to defend your position (if you are so genetically inclined). You can not accept rational thought as your pack mentality programming clicks on and tells you to reject any other position and defend yours ("must reject and defend"). In the second instance, your submissive program (as that may be alternatively dominant in your genetic make up) tells you you must follow this new exposed point of view. To be able to overcome these programs and offer your open mind is difficult to varying degrees based upon your current situation (did your granmother just die?), your genetic make-up (random really), your age, your experiences (or environmnet) and your intelligence. For instnace, the younger you are the more easily you are influenced - you are often a blank slate without a belief one way or the other. Similarly, the less intelligence you have the easier you are influenced. So basically a belief operates like a kind of virus - seeking out the weak, moving from the dominant in the world to the submissive in the world. When it encounters and experiences a grounded intelligent person who can control his animal tendency to either be dominant or submissive, it get’s a real examination under a microscope and dissected toward a rational acceptance or rejection.
How does one then (if they have an alternative position with some substance) approach the average (instinctual) religionist or agnostic or atheist in order that they may listen to a new rational and meaningful position with an open mind? And then how does the necessary approach lead to a belief change on a global scale? My best guess is that the place to acquire some belief changing skills is to look at the past where these changes have actually occurred. And the first question that needs to be asked is “how did belief systems change historically such that they became ingrained on a large scale?” It seems once a belief cathces one (even minimally) it can gain momentum and spread. We teach our beliefs to our children (who like clay take most belief systems at face value no matter what they are told). As a result they become further intrenched without the requirement of any further examination or thought. Essentially a changing belief system on a global scale is like a small snow ball running down a mountain. If you can create that small snow ball belief and roll it down that mountain, it might gain momentum as it is further presented to children and other people by the people they look up to and/or trust (professors, clergy, holy men, your parents as some examples).

2006-11-25 12:10:04 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

There is nothing wrong with suggesting that. Nobody knows the truth and there are 1000's of different belief systems in the world and they cant all be right and it is 99.99% certain none of them are. Of course your religion is based on a falsehood so why not say so

2006-11-23 21:58:38 · answer #2 · answered by Maid Angela 7 · 1 0

Really Now! If you thought your belief was based on a falsehood then you would be compelled to drop that belief;therefore, it no longer exists as your religion - right?
It therefore could not be wrong to suggest your belief was based on falsehood so long as you were honest with yourself and changed your belief.

2006-11-23 21:56:51 · answer #3 · answered by Capt. CB; seguidor de Cristo! 5 · 0 1

Jesus suggested, " though, the hour is coming, and it really is now, at the same time as the actual worshipers will worship the daddy with spirit and actuality, for, certainly, the daddy is searching for suchlike ones to worship him. God is a Spirit, and those worshiping him ought to worship with spirit and actuality.” (John 4:23, 24) that would not sound in any respect like lies are allowed in actual Christianity. Jesus knew no longer partaking in problems with the international, which consists of vacation celebrations in holding with pretend worship can make his followers unpopular. "in case you've been area of the international, the international should be keen on what's its personal. Now because you aren't any area of the international, yet I have chosen you out of the international, in this account the international hates you." (John 15:19) "what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have? Or what sharing does mild have with darkness? further, what team spirit is there between Christ and Belial? Or what component does a dedicated human being have with an unbeliever? And what contract does God’s temple have with idols?" (2 Corinthians 6:14-16) pretend or pagan worship, even its symbols, has no position in actual Christianity.

2016-10-16 10:17:44 · answer #4 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. In that respect if someone doesn't believe what I believe then I suppose it is not wrong. However, when someone has such a closed mind to the possibility that I, as a Spiritual Medium, has absolute and utter proof that God, the Divine Spirit exists and that there is an afterlife (I have spoken to many of those souls/spirits) then, yes, I do get annoyed and upset. Particularly when people are abusive. And those who are abusive pretend to be Christians. If they had any real religious beliefs then they wouldn't do it as we are supposed to love everyone regardless of who, or what, they are.

2006-11-23 22:23:24 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Hello,

I think the answer to your question is this, a persons religion or spiritual beliefs are an extremely sensitive subject, a subject held dear, a subject held close to the heart. What you believe & why you believe it is also something that individuals use as part of the way they define themsleves (its an issue concerned with identity).

**I'm an atheist & as I have grown older I realise that what seems like a fairy story, or a fantasy , or just plain silly to me. These things are sincerely believed in, & deeply held views despite what I might think. Despite there being no rational or logical evidence of a higher being i.e. a god.

**I look at the need for a religeon like this, if you see a man walking down the street on crutches (because he has a broken leg) would you really go and kick his crutches from under him. So it is with people & their need for religion, I might think its madness or daft or stupid but I'm NOT going to try & kick their need for a god from under them. These people NEED a god & religeon to believe in, frankly I dont have that need at all but thats how I see it.

**Its a highly contentious subject, one for which countless people have died and even now continue to loose their lives, sadly. (religeon is the politics of controlling peoples sprituality but thats another topic entirely).

IR

2006-11-23 22:08:47 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Theres nothing wrong with it since it is only a suggestion, and I would like to see what the other religion want to say and how your own religion is false. But for one that claims and insists to be the one and the only true one, than it's different.

2006-11-23 21:57:38 · answer #7 · answered by Skys 3 · 0 0

Every religion is false is one way or another to one person or another, because its what each of us is brought up, or found within our self's that is our true religion, the bible was written by some one so is it true. The church burned people because they did not believe or follow the way of the church all in the name of god. wars in other country's all in the name of god. I believe, follow your heart , treat each other with respect , treat the planet on witch we live with respect, show love. and hopefully when we do die then we will find our one true place of peace. We all have to believe in some thing to stop us from freaking out ,because without believe what is the point of us being here.

2006-11-23 22:04:18 · answer #8 · answered by lady_di_ar125 3 · 0 0

A belief is often the core of a person's morals, values, and hopes. Why, without confirming evidence, would you attempt to destroy someone's foundation. Do you have to TEAR OTHERS DOWN TO BUILD YOURSELF UP? What is your motivation for wanting to suggest to someone that your morals and hopes are based on A LIE?

2006-11-23 21:58:18 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The whole thing hinges on the word FAITH- a belief in something that cannot be proved. Anyone who has faith in their own religious beliefs is not going to accept that another person thinks they are wrong to do so.

2006-11-23 21:55:30 · answer #10 · answered by annie 6 · 0 0

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