Some people attack the belief in the trinity. I had this revelation a while back and it really helped my faith

Question

What do you think?
The Sun is millions of miles away but fills the universe. Humans are micro dots in comparison but we can feel it's heat and see by its light. You have three parts but the sun is one.

Nice responses please. Hope it helps you like it helped me.

Answer 1

I like your revelation. Consider also this one: Light has three parts: a part which you can neither see nor feel---God the Father
a part which you can feel but cannot see--God the Holy Spirit.
a part which you can both see and feel ----God the Son.

One God, three possible manifestations--or ways of relating to God. Christ is God revealed in human flesh. Remember the verses: In the beginning the word was with God, and the word was God, and the word became flesh and dwelt among us.
Or how about, "And His name shall be called many names: Mighty God, Everlasting Father." The last verse in in Isaiah.

Answer 2

For those who think the Trinity is not biblical:
The Trinity can be found in 1 John 5:7-8
For there are three that testify: 8the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement

Also in the Great Commission, Jesus tells the disciples to baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit

The best analogies I have seen for the Trinity are:

Time:
Past, present, future
Neither are the same, but all are time

Matter:
Solid, liquid, gass
Neither are the same but all are matter

Space:
Height, depth, length
Neither are the same but all are space

The Universe is made up of:
Space, Time, Matter

Answer 3

You know. If the idea of the Trinity were so simple then the questions about it would have been answered long ago. Certainly Jesus' command to his followers to baptize them in the name of the "Father, Son and Holy Spirit" seems to indicate that Jesus believed in a triune God. And since he was part of that Godhead he should know. In his command to perform baptism in that manner would indicate that he as a Jew believed in one God and that the F, S and HS are on equal footing. If that makes sense.

I don't know that there are any analogies that really work in describing the Trinity to have three separate things all be the same thing it not something that is easy to get your head around; and I don't think that you can contain something that is debated by people with more letters after their names than I do with a cute little saying.

The trinity is either true or it's not. Our belief or disbelief doesn't change that.

Answer 4

It's not a bad illustration, as such things go. Others include an egg (yolk, white, and shell, but all one egg) and, as one of the other answers mentions, water (ice, liquid, and steam, but all still the same thing).
Unfortunately, all the standard illustrations break down if taken to their logical conclusion. Said another way, all the standard illustrations are old heresies if taken to their logical conclusion. For example, the egg is tritheism, water is modalism, and your illustration reduces the Persons of the Trinity to aspects of one thing rather than genuinely distinct entities.
The problem is that you are trying to make physical comparisons to the nature of Yahweh, and Yahweh defies comparison. He's truly not like anything else in our experience, so we should not expect simple comparisons to work well.

If you want to get a good handle on the distinct aspects of the Trinity and how it helps to found Christianity solidly, see sources below.

Answer 5

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Answer 6

To: Zotta1
the Trinity is A false doctrine.
also your "revelation" is Completely absurd and false.
the Sun does not fill the universe nor is it Millions of miles away. it is 1 A.U. away. Also heat is a form of light (Infra-red). the light is completly seperate from the object that creats it. light and the sun are made out of completly different things.

God the Father
Jesus Christ
and The Holy Ghost
are three completely different persons. the bible even states this is true.
Matthew 3:16-17
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

This specifically states that they are Three Seperate Distinct Beings and not one Personage.

why do heretics like yourself teach lies such as "The Trinity" as truth?

To: Everyone
water May have three forms 3(Ice, Water, Steam) but it is also made of two parts 2(Hydrogen, Oxygen) how does that fit into your theory? also it can be further broken down 3(Electrons, Neutrons, Protons) And Neutrons and Protons can be broken down further still 3(Quarks, Muons, Gluons). So at it's smallist scale Water is either 4 (Electrons, Quarks, Muons, Gluons) or if you also count the states (solid, liquid, gas, plasma) 12 to 16. so where does your math add up?

To: Brad
Time is not made up of Past, Present and Future. time is a name we have applied to the passing of events. Past refers to events that have occurred, Present refers to events that are currently happening, and Future refers to events that have not happened yet but could perhaps happen.

Also if you think of time as an actual object then it stands to reason that it would be a string that the multiverse flows along. Each possible decision would result in a the creation of an alternate time line, branching off of the central time stream. People's actions would be what creates the original time stream. Also because of the amount of desicions, that people make every second of every day, these desicions and all the possible alternatives would result in an infinite amount of time-lines. Most of these Times-Streams would be nearly identical to our own minus one or two details. Although if you were to go far enough along one of these time streams. or if you were to go to a time stream that had branched off in the far past. the changes would be multipled based on the size of the decision that caused it as well as how much time had passed since the source event had occurred. In other words if you believe in a multiverse with the time stream theory then there are an infinite number of other versions of yourself most of them quite close to being your mirror.
In other words in half of all the realities...
you are Evil.
your family is dead.
you have a diiferent name.
you speak a different language as your native tongue.
You are an only child.
Etc. that is also assuming that the events that caused such only had two outcomes. though in fact many events have multiple outcomes that are possible.

Matter is made of more than three forms
Solid, Liquid, Gas, Plasma, Stable Sub-Atomic Particles (Photons, Neutrinos, Etc.), Unstable Sub-Atomic Particles (Muons, Gluons, Quarks), Paired Sub-Atomic Particles (Leptons and Quark-Group Combinations [Electrons-Protons, Etc.])

space is not made of anything. it is infinite only something that has a finite size can be descibed with Height, depth, and length.

the universe is made up of only matter
this matter takes up space and
the volume tooken up by the matter determines the size of the universe. there is still space outside the universe. also the universe exists within time. time exists regardless of whether this universe does or not. time is completely sepparate from space, and matter is also completely separete from time and space. time goes on regardless of whether matter exists or not.

don't talk about things you know absolutely nothing about.

Answer 7

The holy trinity is at best a mystery. We know, as Christians (J.P- Please stop pawning off Richard Dawkins ideas as your own by the way, it's not flattering) that we have god as our omnipotent and omnipresent alpha and omega. As a gift we then were given Jesus. So in scripture you also see that while waiting in the upper room after Jesus' dies, Peter and the remaining disciples (also many others) await what Jesus calls the "advocate". After days of waiting a great gust of wind bursts upon them as they receive the holy spirit - confirming the existence of three versions of one. Three in one. Officialy the "trinity" is a lay word coined by the Catholic church. No where in scripture do they use the word Trinity to SPECIFICALLY describe the mystery of 3 in one. However, and I see why the revelation you had is so striking and awe inspiring, we have many examples of "3-in-one" in our lives every day.

To sum up, I love the idea of the holy trinity. To us Christians it is a source of great mystery. Personally I feel the thirdy member of the trinity (holy spirit) resides in us. After all, Jesus himself says we are the house of god, he dwells within. We must treat our bodies as the temple it was designed to be.

Finally, Zotta1, search out the great quote by former father St. Augustine. Not to give it away but it's quote about the holy trinity, a child and sand!
take care

Answer 8

ok, i hooked.
The trinity is not a true doctrine. it is the imagination of a man

I think joseph smith jr. said that.
And of course the words that you write which describe your revelation are written in a book called: a marvelous work and a wonder where it describes the Godhead and the Holy Ghost in comparison

Answer 9

I enjoyed your revelation very much! I also like way St. Patrick explained the trinity - with a shamrock. The three leaves make up the one clover.

Answer 10

Water can exist as a gas (steam), a liquid and solid (ice). Even though they all have different properties and look different, in the end they're all water.

Amen

Isaiah 6:3 There's a reason they say HOLY HOLY HOLY three times!