the shroud of turin studies have proven that the body in the shroud ...?

Question

was alive.That is it wasnt dead.
This has been determined by the blood tracking and running from the wounds.Is thsi why the Church will not allow carbon dating on the actual shroud material but only on the Patches that were used to repair the shroud after the fire?

corpses dont bleed for hours after expiry

jESUS lived in India by Holger Kersten

Answer 1

Carbon dating is not accurate at all and is a fallacy

The mended corner of the Shroud of Turin was the cause of the carbon 14 dating failure
Carbon 14 dating in 1988 supposedly proved that the Shroud of Turin was medieval. But not everyone was convinced. An overwhelming amount of other data suggested that the Shroud was indeed much older, perhaps first century and from the environs of Jerusalem.

Many researchers who were not experts in radiocarbon dating attempted to explain why the carbon 14 dating was wrong. Several ideas were put forward. Some of these explanation gained traction in the media and with the public.

One hypothesis was that a serious fire in 1532 that nearly destroyed the Shroud had somehow changed the measurement age of the cloth. Another theory was that a bioplastic-polymer growing on the cloth contaminated the sample. These ideas were scientifically insupportable. Scientists, who were knowledgeable in radiocarbon dating, science dismissed these ideas as preposterous.



Photomicrograph of fibers from a warp segment of carbon-14 sample. Chemically, it is unlike the rest of the Shroud.
In 2005 an article appeared in a peer-reviewed scientific journal Thermochimica Acta, which demonstrated that the carbon 14 dating was flawed because the sample was invalid. It turns out that the corner from which the sample was taken for carbon dating had been mended. As a result, the sample included a significant amount of newer material.

Moreover, this article, by Raymond N. Rogers, a well-published chemist, and a Fellow of the Los Alamos National Laboratory, explained why the cloth was much older. It was at least twice as old as the radiocarbon date, and possibly 2000 years old

Answer 2

I don't believe it was Jesus in the shroud to begin with. There are some stories (I say stories because they can't be proven at this time) that it was someone the Church had tortured during the Inquisitions (most likely one of their Inquisitions before the well-known Spanish Inquisition) and then wrapped up and placed, Alive, in a tomb. *Shiver*

And you're right, a dead body does not bleed. Common sense would tell anyone of today that if the heart is not pumping the blood thru the body, then it will not BLEED in the same sense a live person would.

Answer 3

Have you ever worked in a morgue or mortuary? Ever seen a dead body? Of course the body bleeds for hours after it expires! It happens all the time. This is why autopsy tables have drains. And this is even more true in the first century, since they didn't have the modern means of draining the body's fluids.

And I have seen so many studies on the Shroud of Turin that contradict each other. Some have even "proven" that the image was painted on it.

Any "evidence" you present here is spurious at best.

Answer 4

The shroud has been carbon dated and has been shown to be a remarkable 14th century forgery. It is a work of art. Samples were taken from the edges of the original shroud and tested in three different laboratories around the world. What would have been the point of dating the repairwork (which in any case are in the middle of the shroud) when the circumstances and date of the fire were well known? The question was to establish the date of manufacture of the shroud cloth itself. The blood is part of the artwork. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Answer 5

If the graveclothes of Jesus had his image upon them, does it not seem that it would have been noticed and would have become a subject for discussion?
Yet, there is complete silence in the Bible about the graveclothes.
Even the professed Christian writers of the third and fourth centuries, many of whom wrote about a host of so-called miracles in connection with numerous relics, did not mention the existence of a shroud containing the image of Jesus.
This is hard to understand, since 15th- and 16th-century viewers, according to Jesuit scholar Herbert Thurston, “describe the impressions on the shroud as so vivid in detail and colouring that they might have been quite freshly made.”

Answer 6

information? "In 1988 a radiocarbon courting attempt became accomplished on small samples of the shroud, on the college of Oxford, the college of Arizona, and the Swiss Federal Institute of technologies, with ninety 5% self assurance concluding that they date from the midsection a while, between 1260 and 1390."

Answer 7

The shroud is a fraud. That was proven a long time ago.

And to the person that said Carbon Dating isn't accurate... do you think thats the only dating method used to determine the age of something? There are hundreds of different methods and most of them are used in a given area to narrow down the age.

Honestly.... education is so seriously lacking...

Answer 8

They have done dating and there is a lot of controversy as to how old the shroud actually is

Answer 9

Where did you get the final report, the rest of the world hasn't
I lean towards it being real, however if it were not that has no effect on Jesus, only on man, finding it and looking into it.

Answer 10

It has been determined that the shroud is a 14th Century fraud.
The church has always done anything they deemed necessary to keep the suckers believing.