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I believe organized religion helps people cope with things like loss, grief,etc. But scientology seems to shun all that. I tried to go to the website to read on it and had to answer a whole lot of questions and I quickly got bored. I heard stuff about aliens and the like. Is that true? How can a novelist start a religion. I was young and I remember a lady climbing a hill and they were talking about the book "Diuretix" I think, by L Ron Hubbard. And the episode of S Park was funny but answered no questions. Please assist.

2006-11-23 03:56:37 · 15 answers · asked by ccwife2 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Actually, you'd be surprised at how accurate that South Park episode was. Whenever they had "THIS IS WHAT SCIENTOLOGISTS ACTUALLY BELIEVE" on the screen, they were NOT kidding. Yes, the bit about aliens is true. And yes, it's true, L. Ron Hubbard, the science fiction writer, created a "religion". Here, I'll explain what it's all about.

It is a CULT. Despite what a few fanatical members may say, it IS a cult. The church harasses & bullies anyone who they deem an "enemy" (basically anyone who has anything negative to say about the "church"). They will RUIN YOUR LIFE if you speak out against them long enough.

The founder is L. Ron Hubbard, the science FICTION writer who once told a friend that the best way to make lots of money is to start your own religion. Though being a very outspoken critic of psychiatric drugs, it was discovered upon Hubbards death that the anti-anxiety drug hydroxyzine (Vistaril) was present in his body, which several of his assistants would later attest was only one of many psychiatric & pain medications Hubbard ingested over the years. (visit this link to read about the uses of hydoxyzine: http://www.drugs.com/mtm/v/vistaril.html )

Scientologists believe the evil alien ruler Xenu killed a lot of aliens (Thetans) from around the universe by bringing them to earth & blowing them up inside volcanoes. They believe the souls of these aliens (these souls are "Body Thetans") have attached themselves to us & cause many of our mental & physical ills. Members who know about Xenu will attempt to deny it or pretend like it doesn’t matter. They are required to sign a contract binding them to silence on the matter. Lower level members don’t know about Xenu & accordingly deny everything because they honestly don’t know.

To rid ourselves of "Body Thetans" & also “engrams” (past negative experiences stored in our unconscious mind) so that we can become “clear”, we have to go through "auditing" with a member of the “church” who uses an "e-meter" to measure our “reactive mind”...... & we have to pay lots & lots of money for “auditing” (purchased in 12.5-hour blocks, costing anywhere from $750 for introductory sessions to between $8,000 & $9,000 for advanced sessions) & to take courses on Scientology to advance to higher “levels” in the “church”. The “church” has also taken a very hostile stance towards psychiatry & psychiatric drugs irrespective of the fact that some people require medication to remain adequately functional in everyday life. They deny the reality of chemical imbalance & profound mental disturbance & accordingly do NOTHING to effectively stabilize the dangerously unstable. The “church” has been known to withhold prescription pharmaceuticals from member (with deadly results).

Scientology is undeniably a cult. For more information on what a cult is & what their damaging effects are, please visit the link provided at the bottom of the sources. Just know that Scientology DOES qualify by meeting these 5 criteria:

(1) It uses psychological coercion to recruit, indoctrinate & retain its members. (2) It forms an elitist totalitarian society. (3) Its founder leader is self-appointed, dogmatic, messianic, not accountable & has charisma. (4) It believes 'the end justifies the means' in order to solicit funds & recruit people. (5) Its wealth does not benefit its members or society.

2006-11-23 05:11:15 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 5 1

It is a wicked cult, that denies the individual the ability to know there own will , followers believe that its ideaology is unquestionable all based around aliens and this Theta crap , if you want to know the truth about L.Ron Hubbard read the last few cahpters of Gerald Susters Legacy of the Beast , its abiography of Alister Crowley but there is a few passage about the founder of scientology and how he was regarded within the spritual circles of the world I believe beven Crowley described him as a fanatical lunatic who had completly misunderstood the concepts of truth and the purpose of relgion. Its is abunch of lies found by a fool who stole others ideas nad beliefs and tried to invent a coherent system of belief i order to con people out of their money ,the whole thing is based on fear and control of the invidual , in my mind a cult makes it followers distrust the outside world and bases life on group dynamic sothe individual fears isolation from the group and will do just about anything asked of them toprevent this occuring , scientolgy does this and their quite good at it so definitely a cult, I have reaserached over 15 different relgious beliefs and everything thats in scientology and has been mentioned int he post below are just concepts stolen from other beliefs , don't be fooled , Thelmites despise scientology beacuse they see it as weak and full of lies and that it has no regard for the true will of an individual. RFon Hubbard was nothiong more then a liar and a theif and the leaders of Scientology today are no better , to call it advanced is a joke I read into enough of it to realise what crap it was and beliewve me I've taken the time to read and assess the many other relgious texts even that I didn't agree with but Scientolgy 1. i'd be wasting me time beacuse have already read most of it in other religious beliefs 2. Hubbard was a follower of Crowley until Crowley made him leave due to his weak minded nature and idiocy , he was too weak to be one of us, so went off like a sulking child and tried to start his own beliefs

In a way their kiinda like Junkies they been trapped into this path which is just negative and has no benefit to their lives it makes them feel good when their in a group of people who are the same and will constantly try to draw others into thier screwed up world to feed their addiction/ habit some more , it a matter a fact even smacks probably better for someone then scientology

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legacy of the beast - Gerald Suster
through reading of scientolgy based texts

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2006-11-23 23:43:27 · answer #2 · answered by harro_06 4 · 1 0

Scientology is an applied religious philosophy. When I say "applied" I mean you actually use it in your life to change or improve existing conditions. It is a very practical religion.
All religions if you learn about them have a basic philosphy, but they also have certain dogma, rituals and observances, and a certain faith or belief is required. There is nothing wrong with this, but Scientology is not that kind of religion. It does not intrude on anyones faiths of beliefs particularly in the area of God , the Supreme Being, or the Infinite. This area is left totally up to the indivdual, which is why you can be a practicing Jew,for example and still use and apply the priniciples of Scientology in your life. It does not conflict. If anything it will enhance your understanding of your chosen religious practice.
You can have no specific religious beliefs and still benefit from using it.
And it is only true for you according to your own observation and experience with it.
It is a non denominational religion . The dictionary definition that applies:
Religion: The spiritual or emotional attitude of one who recognises the existence of superhuman power or powers.

The most basic principle of Scientology is that YOU are your own immortal soul, that this is not a "thing" you HAVE but what YOU actually are.
The whole purpose of Scientology is to increase an individual's understanding and awareness of himself. and lifeAnd thereby his native abilities .
When you do this the sphere and zone of his positive influence increases and moves outward into his life, his family ,his friends, his groups and mankind which he is part of.

How this result is achieved is the "technology" of Scientology, which was developed by L.Ron Hubbard after his extensive research and the discoveries he made, about the human spirit. The basic religious philosophy and knowledge of Scientology is very old, going back 10,000 years at least to the Veda or Vedic Hymns from the East. The developement of the technology is new.
He completed his research before his death in 1986 and left all of his results and copyrights
to the Church of Scientology along with most of his considerable personal estate, when he died.

He published a book in 1951 to communicate the basic principles he discovered called: " Scientology The Fundementals of Thought"
There are currently over 10 million Scientologists in more than 163 countries world wide. However we are a new religion, only 53 years old.
The true story of Scientology as a religion goes like this:
1. A philosopher developes a philosophy about life and death.
2. People find it interesting.
3. People find it works.
4. People pass it along to others.
5. It grows.

This is just an overview.
L. Ron Hubbard explained fully the theology and technologies of Scientology in more than 500,000 pages of writings, including dozens of books and over 2,000 tape-recorded public lectures. So it's not possible to fully answer your question on this forum,but I hope this helps.
The book that you are referring to is called "Dianetics the Modern Science of Mental Health" and was first published in 1950. Scientology came after as a result of further research , but is still very much in use altho the procedures have been simplified.
Stuff about aliens isn't Scientology it's just stuff about aliens.

2006-11-23 20:06:46 · answer #3 · answered by thetaalways 6 · 0 1

Ron L. Hubbard made up Scientology as a scam. Technically, if any organization can have enough members a religion is formed. there is a religion in europe of Jedis from Star Wars. In order to join Scientology you have to pay a certain amount each year. Not donations, but actually paying to have the religion.

2006-11-23 11:59:02 · answer #4 · answered by steve w 5 · 1 1

First off, Scientology is a crock of crap. In the first story of Xenu, leaked in 1973. Supposedly, 75 million years ago, supreme galactic ruler Xenu sent like 4 million frozen bodys in Douglas DC-8's and placed them around the base of major Earth volcanoes and blew hydrogen bombs on them, and their souls clustered in a ball of energy and were forced to watch a 36 hour super deluxe 3-D movie( i swear to God i am not kidding) that tought them" God is Satan and Satan is God" and other crap. This was published in a book by founder L. Ron Hubbard, called Dianetics. It is sci-fi, and that is really what Scientology is, fiction. Allegations show Hubbard wrote this on the influence of amphetines.

2006-11-23 20:47:36 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Lot's of belief systems shun things. When the Beatles where with that India guy -- the Yogga guy -- and their friend and manager died he told them to be happy.

It's a valid, yet strange, point of view.

From what I gather Scientology, based on the Book Dianetics by L. Ron Hubbard, who is considered to be a 2nd rate sci fi writer, is basically a reworking of traiditional psychology with new terms and new methods of getting rid of common phobea.

One of the things they use is meter that works much like a lie dector. A galvanic skin responce meter that reacts as you sweat more (to the metalic salts in your sweat) and you're supposed to use this meter to learn to control your anxieties and such.

A large part of scientology is getting you to buy into things that cost money, starting with the book.

Does it work?

John Lennon and Elton John once did a song that sums up everything. Whatever gets you through the night, it's alright.

2006-11-23 13:44:02 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Dianetics, dear.

It's a sort of autodidactic layman's amalgam of psychology and religion cooked up by science fiction author L. Ron Hubbard (he wrote for sci-fi pulps) around 1950.

2006-11-23 11:58:11 · answer #7 · answered by martino 5 · 0 0

In my own words this is Scientology:

1. What is true for you is what you your self observe to be true.

2. Man is his spirit not his mind or his body.

3. The spirit creates his own mind. Please do not confuse the mind with the brain that is a physical thing. The mind is composed of mental image pictures as explained in Dianetics. These pictures serve the spirit to give him knowledge and experience. These pictures are composed of energy. The energy in the picture can affect the spirit. You can feel better by remembering something that you like or angry by remembering something else. These emotions are actually energy waves emanated by the picture. You can actually feel pain by remembering a pain memory. Sometimes this pictures are accompanied by ideas or considerations. Lets supposed that you father beat you mom up in front of you. Your father was the dominating figure so you might conclude that you have to act like your father in some situations. This is what we call in Scientology an aberration (a conclusion that is impose to you by a mental picture). This picture is what we call a engram; A pain memory that affects your judgment and free will.

4. You can discharge the energy in this pictures through communication. This is Dianetics Auditing and his the oldest of hundreds of Scientology techniques used to improve the individual.

5. The Spirit creates his own emotions. Are you happy? Are you sad? Are you depress? Maybe you think that something external of you is creating your emotions. Maybe you believe that you are sad because you had a bad day. Or maybe you believe that you are happy because you had a great day. And this might be true. But who made the decision that you had a good or bad day? You did. You decided if life was good or bad, and adjusted your emotions to respond to your own consideration. You created your own emotion.
Some people are born with everything they want and are still unhappy. And others are born into humble means and are happy. What's the difference? The only real difference is each person ideas and considerations.
Scientology uses hundreds of processes to order to help the person get a better understanding and a better outlook in life by using his own observations.

6. Scientology Ethics: Scientologist base their conduct on a non-denominational code of conduct. http://twth.org/eb/?id=16664j

7. Scientology and God. Scientology acknowledges the supreme being and promotes the individual search for closeness to God trough religion.

8. Scientology vs Psychiatry. Psychiatry believes that self awareness, feelings, love and faith is merely cellular activity. Basically they think that you are your brain and you are not in charge of your behavior but your cells are.This is a totally materialistic point of view that denies the spirit and God. Psychiatrist is simply a pseudo science because is based in principles that are false.Psychiatry have never proven that any "mental illnesses" (like they call it) has any connection with a physical illness. Any Neurologist will tell you that there are no medical test to identify a "Mental Illness". All Psychiatrists base their diagnosis on opinion and opinion alone.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3895596783332855545&q=Psychiatry+is+fraude&hl=enhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8443414209115892468&q=scientology&hl=en
http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?p=cchr&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&b=1&oid=12085d1e6c58d04e&rurl=video.yahoo.com&vdone=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fvideo%3Fp%3Dcchr%26toggle%3D1%26cop%3Dmss%26ei%3DUTF-8
Happiness, exhilaration, depression and psychosis are states of mind, not diseases. All what you have to do to stop being depress is change your state of mind. How you do that? By changing your ideas and considerations. Scientology provides the tools to achieve a better state of mind in accordance with your own point of view.
Also Psychiatrist excuse the most horrendous crimes as mental illnesses. This is actually creates a sense of in-responsibility in society because it tells people that they are not responsible for their actions. Second they promote that drugs are the answer for your problems. This message promotes the use of drugs to find release from life and creates the current drug addiction problem in society. Drugs will only give you temporary release but will never solve the source of your problems.And actually drugs will keep you away from finding a true spiritual release.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4437051883726295326&q=psychiatry&hl=en
P.S. Scientology doesn't have anything against Psychology or Neurology only Psychiatry.

9. Scientology and aliens. The story of Xenu is just a fable like the story Jonah in the Whale in the bible. Fables are not intended to be taken seriously. The story of Xenu doesn't have any significance on Scientology beliefs.

Scientology is so advance and so different that people can't understand it. People think that they know everything there is to know about life. And when they see Scientology they jump to conclusions when in reality they don't have a clue what are they talking about. The reality is that man attacks what he can't understand. That's why Scientology gets so much bad press.
http://www.chaplaincare.navy.mil/Scientology.htm
http://www.religioustolerance.org/scientol.htm
http://www.beliefnet.com/sem/scientology-religion.asp?source=YAHSCT&campaign=096&medium=PPC&nopop=1&WT.mc_id=YAHSCT&WT.srch=1

2006-11-23 16:19:36 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

scientology was invented by l.ron hubbard, a sci-fi writer from the 1950's. this "religion" basically says that humans are unclean because we were once invaded by aliens or something like that and we have to "clean" ourselves and our auras because we are dirty. that is why people like tom cruise buy machines that supposedly read your aura and can tell you your state of cleanliness. i believe this is a cult and a crock more than anything else. scientology is supposedly based on psychology and science, that is why tom cruise went on his rant about the origins of psychology and how he knew exactly how psychology worked. that is what he was thought in his "meetings". it is cult mentality.

2006-11-23 12:09:49 · answer #9 · answered by prettyme 3 · 1 1

Scientology, Islam, Christianity, etc... all stupid b.llsh.t. All designed by the few to control the many. All believers are morons! Sadly...most people are morons!

2006-11-23 12:55:24 · answer #10 · answered by fiercedong 2 · 0 1

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