Ok. Some of you may have responded to my last question.
The athiest agitators act as if you know better because they can quote a bit of theology of congure up some plagurised criticism. But more often than not its an ignorant phrase like 'why should we believe god exists' or the statement 'gods not real'
When I asked why do they come here, it was not mean't to say 'this is only for the religious' but more 'What do you get out of coming to this forum?' A harmless question taken out of context by the agitators.
I myself have no religion but some spiritual beliefs. But I always respect those of others.
My point about global warming is this: To those who disregard a spiritual belief system, surely what is more important to you is what is happening now, so why are you trying to change people instead of the world?
The idiot who said 'I Cant stop global warming. What can one person do' Please do not reply. It showed your true shallowness as a human.
2006-11-23 03:25:53 · 17 answers · asked by Matthew C 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I didnt see your other question. But as an "atheist agitator", I shoud tell you that I DO try to stop global warming. I drive a fuel effienct car (my next one will be a hybrid) and I work hard to support pro -environmental candidates. Politics is where the battle will really be won or lost. Trying to save the environment without laws would work no better than trying to abolish slavery without laws would have worked.
2006-11-23 03:32:53 · answer #1 · answered by Phil S 5 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Firstly... plagurised criticism... not all criticism is plagurised... unless they are specifically quoting from the writings of a known and acknowledged aethiest. The counter arguement is that the God-Botherers usually quote ad-verbatum from their religious book... who is the plagurist?
The point of any question in any chosen area is to find an answer. The answer you receive may not be the one you want or expect. Everyone has the right to answer. It is also the opportunity for those who disagree or do not accept something as being a 'Fact' to debate and argue their point... So the aethiest agitators and the god botherers both have the right to be in the religious section giving their answers.
Being an aethiest does not mean that they do not respect others. Accepted that some may be rude, but this trait can also be levelled at some of the religious people on here.
Is it not acceptable to ask questions like... "why should we believe god exists" It is not obligatory that people must believe that god exists, nor is it obligatory that you should believe that god exists... It is a choice .
Ignorant phrases... define ignorance. An ignorant phrase would infer that the person is unknowledgeable of the subject... most aethiest are fully aware of the subject and therefore cannot make ignorant comments or 'phrases'. Perhaps you are using ignorant in the terms of say 'bullying' where the bully is ignorant of his/her actions as they do not consider what they do is bullying.... hence a bully is ignorant. But if this is the case, please be aware that bullying in both the god botherers and aethiests exists in equal amounts.
2006-11-23 03:45:57 · answer #2 · answered by Boring Old Fart 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Wow. Way to put down the responses you get - better yet, tell them that they shouldn't post at all!
>> The athiest agitators act as if you know better because they can quote a bit of theology of congure up some plagurised criticism.
Religion has been around for thousands of years. Anything I think of has been said by someone at some point; that's just how it goes. It's not like there's a Bible 2.0 I can pick apart.
>> But more often than not its an ignorant phrase like 'why should we believe god exists' or the statement 'gods not real'
How is that ignorant? That's what people come to understand. If you don't like to hear their opinions, don't ask the questions.
>> When I asked why do they come here, it was not mean't to say 'this is only for the religious' but more 'What do you get out of coming to this forum?'
Perhaps if that was the true intention of your question, that's what you should have asked. You seemed to be able to state it with perfect clarity just now. (I'll ignore the point that this question has been asked a bazillion times before in this forum, and I have no doubt it showed up on the "similar questions list" when you typed it in).
To answer your question, I come here to express the position of atheists. That's it - every spiritual question does have an atheist answer; people don't always understand that. I'm here to provide that vantage point. I don't attack people, I attack ideas. The idea of religion is something that really gets under my skin - so I'm here to get that feeling out. I'm sad I only get 60 answers a day to do it in.
>> But I always respect those of others.
Why? If someone still believed the sun circled the earth, would you correct them because you 'respect their beliefs'? Of course not. Religion is not immune to this criticism, despite your insistence to the contrary.
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>> To those who disregard a spiritual belief system, surely what is more important to you is what is happening now, so why are you trying to change people instead of the world?
What makes you think that the problems of the Middle East / 9/11 aren't religiously inspired? To attack religion here, is to attack religion there. Religion is permeated throughout human culture (*especially* in America) which causes prejudice against homosexuals, the halting of condoms being sent to AIDS riddled Africa, the stopping of stem cell research which could cure a whole host of issues... need I go on? To attack religion is to combat all those other problems.
>> so why are you trying to change people instead of the world?
People are the world. The 'world' is an inanimate ball of rock and can't be changed by writing on internet forums. Only the people that affect that rock can be changed.
2006-11-23 03:37:03 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
If you really respect the beliefs of others, then why call Atheists, who choose not to believe, agitators? That is showing disrespect for someones personal beliefs. I am Agnostic, but, the reason I come here and answer questions in this forum is for the debate. That's the whole reason for this thing anyway. To possibly have people think about other persons points of view, whether they agree with them or not. If not for debate, this thing wouldn't be anything but teenagers asking questions about "what they should do to get with this or that boy/girl". Who wants to answer those all day?
2006-11-23 03:31:41 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
People populate this earth, so to begin to change things, you have to take faith into account. You have to change the way people think and act as well as making positive changes for the planet. It's been my own personal experience that people of faith assume God will take care of their problems, rather than taking the step to take care of it themselves. It's like anything else. If you want to promote abstinance programs, for instance, you need to walk the walk, not just talk the talk. With global warming, you have to make people see that what they do impacts the environment. You need to change the way the person thinks to let the changes on a global scale begin. I'm sorry if you think this is an "atheist agitator" response, but it's how the world is.
2006-11-23 03:34:08 · answer #5 · answered by ReeRee 6 · 1⤊ 2⤋
We can't change the world until everyone realizes it needs changing. Most religious people hold the paradigm that a god is watching and taking care of us, but it's our responsibility to save the Earth.
You'd get a lot more respect if you used the spell-check function, and spent a little time editing your post.
"Why should we believe in god" is not an ignorant question. Most of the mysteries of the Universe have been solved, and we didn't need to resort to god to explain them. So, since god doesn't explain anything unexplainable, why do we need the hypothesis? It's a question that I've never seen answered sufficiently by any religious person. The best they can come up with is 'so you don't burn in hell'.
I don't live my life in fear.
2006-11-23 03:29:46 · answer #6 · answered by Michael 5 · 6⤊ 3⤋
The person who asked "What can one person do?" could be asking along the lines of, if President Bush ignores the Kyoto protocol, if businesses care not about greenhouse gasses, if Al Gore's movie is ignored, what can a person do to try and change attitude?
The feeling of helplessness is not one borne of shallowness, but of genuine confusion
2006-11-23 03:29:40 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 1⤋
I come here to have a good laugh and despair in equal measures.
The mindless bible quotes crack me up, but also scare me a little. So I guess I come here to vent my spleen, have a laugh and give myself a little scare all at the same time.
2006-11-23 04:32:40 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Thank you so much for saying that! Some people do just come to the religious page just to be nasty and I'm so glad you've pointed it out, but you will get a lot of abuse...
Anyway, global warming, I don't think it is something we need to worry about, it's just you know, the world evolving. Sorry if I'm not very helpful though.
2006-11-23 03:34:27 · answer #9 · answered by floppity 7 · 0⤊ 4⤋
I'm a student.
I want to go to med school.
Is that ok or do I have to work on the ozone, pollution and water conservation if I'm an atheist?
Like I said, I come here to find out the reasons people are religious and understand how they justify it.
2006-11-23 03:31:07 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋