road map to peace?

Question

Does anyone agree that although the US & UK are involved in an illegal was in Iraq ( confirmed by Kiof Annan)
they got their co-ordinates wrong...the real issue lies with the illegal occupation of Palestinian lands.
this issue needs to be addressed urgently to secure peace for the region.
Bin Laden has stated he attacke America on 9/11 because of it bias towards Israel.
If Israel were to give back land seized in 1967,return to those borders and quit building illegal Jewish settlements on Arab land,the root cause for Al-Quaeda would be gone...they would have no more angst

Answer 1

Your idea of appeasement does sound well-founded, I'll grant you that. But what happens if you give a mouse a cookie? He'll want a glass of milk to wash it down with. The problem isn't just the fact Israel has those lands to Middle-Eastern peoples, it's also the fact that Israel exists.

Lets look at how past appeasement worked. We're going on a history lesson back to the 1930's. Hitler's military taking of the Rhineland was against the Treaty of Versailles, and should have been faced with military action. However, fearing another world war like the first, France and Great Britain appeased his hunger by letting him have it. Hitler admitted later that, "The forty-eight hours after the march into the Rhineland were the most nerve-racking in my life. If the French had then marched into the Rhineland we would have had to withdraw with our tails between our legs, for the military resources at our disposal would have been wholly inadequate for even a moderate resistance."

The Munich Agreement of 1938 was where Neville Chamberlain the Prime Minister of Britain, gave up more land to Hitler to appease his hunger and prevent the war theat was unknowingly coming. Every military of occupational action Hitler took, up to the invasion of France, was allowed by the powers of Europe, viewed as "necessary to prevent another World War." Worked wonders, didn't it.

Appeasement won't work. And I don't have the time to type all I have to say about Kofi Annan, but I can summarize it in the fact that it's not very nice to him, and it's the truth.

Answer 2

Bubbles, Bubbles, where do you get the notion that Gaza was handed back? Don't you remember why the last cease fire was ended? After the Palestinian family picnicking on a beach were killed by an Israeli shell?

Never mind what the bible says - there was no property rights in those days - the Jews insinuated themselves in Palestine after the Allies defeated the Ottoman Empire in the First World War - ever heard of T E Lawrence? The Jews then murdered British soldiers who were there to see fair play to the indigenous Palestinians and when the British gave up, went on to proclaim their new state. All this with the support of American presidents who were dependent on the rich American Jews for their election funds.

The double standards go on. The crap British Foreign Secretary, Becket, who's proved crap at every position she's had, blamed the Lebanese for provoking Israel into killing their children and now Blair blames Syria for killing one Lebanese. If Israel tried to compromise instead of provoking their enemies, the enemies might back off but for as long as Israel can count on the support of the US and the UK, it knows it doesn't have to. It can, will and does what it likes and to hell with peace in the Middle East. The proportionately few Israelis, compared to the Palestinians, who get killed are obviously considered a price worth paying for Western sympathy and support.

Answer 3

That would seem like a quick solution however it is never that simple, especially in this case. The Palestinians say that Israel is on THEIR land and that they should be removed. Israel said the opposite. Who is right? Both lineages can be traced back to the bible and both sides can give mountians of evidence as to who was where and when. They have been trying for decades to prove this but to no avail.
Thus now both sides have resulted in war because neither can convince the other. Isreal will not back down because of religion and Palenstine will return the favor. I agree with you that that is the main issue that was overlooked however i belive that it is comming into light soon enough.

Answer 4

First off, who cares what Kofi Annan says, the UN is useless. The war in Iraq is NOT illegal, as it was authorized by our Congress, and voted for by John Kerry and Hillary Clinton, among other Dems.

Now my question is: are you antisemitic?

So the Jewish people living in the middle east don't deserve to be there, even though they were born there and their families have lived there for thousands of years?

Why don't you just propose another round of concentration camps to get rid of the "Jewish threat"? The Jewish people and the state of Israel have a RIGHT to exist. Militant (and a majority of) Muslims, and many others for that fact, hate the Jews simply because they're Jewish.

You sound like Mel Gibson to me...

Answer 5

The Middle East will not find peace through Real Estate deals. The land from 1967 is not the root cause of the problems. Isaac's clan (Jews) and Ishmael's clan (Muslims) have a longer memory than that.

They use 3000 year old events as excuses for feuding.

Answer 6

absolutely.
but i think the issue is a bit more complex than that in terms of US politik. i think israel was put there for a reason other than biblical. i think it was put there due to the importance of of oil recognised after ww2, and forecast to run out at some future date and we're the stage now where oil supply is now a big issue. so now that decision is paying off.... the west have a strong hold in the area from which they can work on to gain oil rich land like iraq.
there is always a master agenda... and you can be fairly sure that it is a greedy one. if you can satisfy the lust and greed of the US you will find a solution to the conflict. whilst the israelis had an ideal of being in a home of biblical context... i don't think they where that fussed, they just wanted a boarder they could call their own. several sites no where close to the middle east where considered before ww2 for example.

Answer 7

Not as simple as that unfortunatly but I agree, the situation in Palestine has a big effect on the stability of the middle east. As you know, the Israeli army are equipped with American military power and funding. They also have a cladestine nuclear program. The Americans cannot risk upsetting the Israeli's and as a result they literally get away with murder. I think the Israeli/Palestinian conflict can only be resolved by the U.N. They need to be policed and restrained.

Answer 8

First you believe what Annan says? Remember when the PLO said if Israel gave them Gaza they would quit killing Israelis? Well they gave it to the PLO and left, did the PLO or Hamas stop the bombing? Israel DID give back the land. Clean your rose colored glasses, this is the real world.

I also remember Slick Willy bragging that he brought peace to the Middle East. Let's hold him accountable too.

Answer 9

I think it's an idealistic view that if Palestine was returned to its people then the worlds problems would be solved with regards to the middle east. The problems go far deeper than that.

I agree that the creation of the state of israel is one of the major factors, but not all of them .

Answer 10

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