I have a problem with the idea of God and judgement. To help please provide serious thought and answer the following questions
1) Is God all knowing?
2) Am I judged by God when I die?
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3) How can God judge if he is all knowing as he can forsee my the decisions and actions?
If you say 'its because we have free will' then we can assume God does not have complete knowledge and is capable of error?
Christians with the escapist answer 'God moves in mysterious ways' need not answer.
2006-11-23
00:39:11
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Matthew C
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KC
Sorry but that leaves life pointless & without meaning. Because an evil dictator can lead an evil life of suffering for millions and then enjoy an eternity in heaven. Pathetic answer. Its annoying because there is a serios point to my question
2006-11-23
00:45:42 ·
update #1
Steven095
The our creation and life is pointless. There is no test or purpose.
2006-11-23
00:47:47 ·
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Happy Pilgrim
What you saying is entrapment
2006-11-23
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update #3
He doesn't exist - all you need to know!
2006-11-23 00:41:01
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answer #1
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answered by David J 2
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1) Yes
2) You're judged on every act or decision you make. But each act will be judged individually. Judgement will not be generalised. Bear in mind, consistently throughout one's life, you will be given many chances to make the right decisions and walk the right path. It's all about actively reseraching, finding out about the world around you....and also using your common sense and not being narrow minded.
3) Think of it like this... life is a film. God has watched all of our 'movies' and so knows the outcome. That does not mean your actions have been predetermined; they have all been the result of your own doings, your own action and free will. The only difference is God is ahead of us as he has seen the decisions we have made beforehand. In order to understand this concept you have to get it into your mind that there really isn't any concept of time. Time does not exist. It was only made a natural law in this world, because we as humans are incapable of grasping the 'timelessness' concept. It would be impossible to live life on earth without the idea of time.
So God's judegement will be purely objective.
Hope that answers at least part of your question :)
2006-11-23 00:56:12
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answered by Henna 2
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I agree that some negative issues have got here about. i'm a christian yet - 6 million jews - Gods chosen human beings? The holocaust might want to were the worst element in all heritage - although the large style slaughtered in view that then ought to come a quite close 2d! Its guy's inhumanity to guy its purely horrendous - contained in the right the last jews didnt die - Hitler would have had each and every jew in Europe murdered so i wager you would possibly want to say thank God the allies gained. The 2ww became a huge conflict of reliable v evil. negative evil is in yet another usa contained in the international thats for sensible. each and every thing has its opposite - wager what which will be? or who?
2016-11-29 09:47:23
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answer #3
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answered by ? 4
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One might ask why we should not expect god to be at least as reasonable and compassionate as the average person? Take a simple scenario that was given to me on a yahoo group: You are in the kitchen. You see a toddler headed towards a stove where a pot of oil bubbles away furiously. He reaches up... do you sit there and watch him do grievous harm to himself when he pulls it down, thinking pain, fear, scarring or death are just rewards for wanting to know? Or do you get up and pull him to safety? This is a good one. Where’s god;s warning when people are nearing unknown but certain danger? Here are my ideas: First, it is possible that the value system that is placed on this equation is meaningless in relation to some HIGHER PURPOSE? Perhaps the history of death and pain and suffering is a spit in the pan compared to what the ultimate goal is? Does a mother focus on the pain of child birth when she first holds her infant in her arms? Or is she elated with the result such that the pain becomes meaningless? Chaos, pain and suffering are inherent propensities in this system, but in the evolution of biology toward man they were certainly necessary components of the equation. Unlike the animal, whose pain is a conditioned response mechanism, man (now conscious) has an understanding of these things. He understands pain, suffering, mortality. Now he must suffer the consequences of that knowledge. But given the loftier goal of creating new personalities, perhaps the awareness of the chaotic nature of our environment and the pain and suffering and death we know in our conscious states is well worth attainment of another goal? In other words, maybe the means justify the end. Quite possibly not even the intervention by God would change the final outcomes. Secondly, this scenario assumes god can intervene. I believe god is just another word for perfection or morality and that saying that god could grab the infant or give him some warning is the same as saying your morality could grab the infant and save him. You (being moral or godly) want to save him because you have god (morality) within you.
2006-11-25 11:10:57
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answered by Anonymous
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1) Yes
2) Yes
3) You are free to make any decision you want. God does not force you to do anything. However, he does know what you will do. Think of it like this. You watch a film of real life people going about their business. In one scene, a person goes into a restaurant and orders a particular meal. Now, that was a decision freely arrived at. No-one made that person choose that meal. Ok, that's agreed, yes? Right, then try this. You watch the film AGAIN. You see the person go into the restaurant and order the meal. You KNOW what meal that person will order, but that does not take anything away from that person's freedom of choice.
2006-11-23 01:21:43
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answered by waycyber 6
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Yes, yes, and on #3, you're assuming you have the power to decide, and you don't. The world doesn't want to be saved, and needs God's intervention. That's not very popular with a world that wants to think of itself as having that "ability to choose", but I believe these people give themselves way too much credit when the Bible says exactly the opposite. God does have complete knowledge and is incapable of errors, and the only way to reconcile that with free will is to look at man as so tainted with sin that he cannot of his own power look to God for salvation. Hope that answers your dilemma.
2006-11-24 23:28:41
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answered by ccrider 7
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From what perspective do you think that God foresees your decisions and actions? Is it from the perspective where you think God sees? i.e. from your perspective of not knowing God personally.
You talk about the God dilemna but first you need to define your terms. What or who exactly do you mean when you use the word 'God' in conjunction with dilemna. Then you nned to define what you mean by dilemna.
Your dilemna is that you are talking about God before you are born into His family. Now, it's impossible to talk about your Father before you have been raised from the dead.
Jesus said, 'God is a God of the living not of the dead'. Eternity is not about what you think of God, it's about the surrender of your ego for there is only room in eternity for one ego. If you can't understand fundamental truths about the eternal state of 'I am' then you shouldn't even be mentioning the word God unless you know the fundamental purpose of His life.
No matter. Jesus made God as plain as a pancake for every tom dick or harry to understand fully. Your choice whether you want to feed off the Living Truth or not.
2006-11-24 11:32:35
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answered by forgetful 2
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Judgment is not for God's sake. He already knows who are His and who will be in heaven. Judgment is for the sake of the angels and surrounding universe who are not all knowing, in whose presence we will live for eternity. God knows our motives and inner thoughts. These will be revealed in the judgment. God reveals in a very open way what happens when someone sins, who suffers the results, what happens to that sin after the person has asked forgiveness, who carries that sin, where the sin is deposited, upon whom that sin is finally laid, what happens to the sin and the penalty for sin for those who do not seek repentance. In addition, God reveals how the people who have sinned and sought forgiveness are cleansed from their sin so that they can live forever with beings who have never sinned. The judgment will reveal why some are accepted into heaven while others are not allowed to enter.
Again, none of this is for the sake of God. He already knows who will be in heaven. In spite of knowing, his love and justice demands that He continue to give each person the opportunity to accept His call. The judgment will vindicate God's character because it will show that despite God already knowing the results, the reason people are in heaven of hell is because of their free will, not because God predestined them to be there. It will be shown where each person either accepted or rejected the divine call to repentance and how God is just in judging favorable or unfavorably the characters of people.
The whole process is foreshadowed in the Hebrew sanctuary service in the OT.
2006-11-23 02:33:22
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answered by 19jay63 4
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I had to read your question again. So heres some of what I think, I hope I can make sense.
I think those descriptions of God were writen/taught to 'encourage' people to be devout. Through fear. God is all knowing so dont do wrong because he will know. God will judge you, so dont do wrong because you wont go to heaven.
I dont beleive these things. But I have free will (so I am alowd to choose a different way of thinking!!) I choose to do things because I believe they are right, I try to be a good person, but not because I beleive God is watching me. You will judge yourself when you die, and your families and contempories will judge you when you die. These are more than enough motivation for me to be good.
It is not that I dont beleive in God. I just do not beleive we were made in his image. I do not beleive he is a man, and that he thinks as we do. The concepts in the bible were writen by MEN. But I think their overall message was good.
2006-11-23 01:14:25
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answer #9
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answered by nycgrl 2
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God don't have such dilemma as what you could think but the real dilemma is in you being not fully knowing God.
From an early beginning God already know who were suppose to be in heaven and who were suppose to be in hell but SHOULD God straight away put those who are suppose to be in heaven into the heaven and straight away put you into the hell based on God knowledge then you would definitely QUESTIONED God on what reason you had to be in hell.... WON'T YOU?
Would you JUST simply accepted and satisfy should God answer your question with JUST a simple statement " I KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW ".....will you?
NOW.... do you understand what JUDGEMENT means and it purpose?
2006-11-23 01:12:41
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answer #10
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answered by mad 2
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Free will does not negate God's omnipotence or His omniscience.
We have real choices in life and we are judged and will be judged according to our choices. Just because God knows the outcome of a situation does not free us from the obligation to actively seek and do His will.
His judgments are righteous, based in love, and completely free from the earthly tendencies of pride and error.
2006-11-23 00:46:40
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answered by happy pilgrim 6
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