If Jesus and God are one in the same?

Question

Ok If Jesus and God are the same person and God commanded that there had to be a sacrifice to make up for sin and he decided that this manifistation of himself in the form of Jesus was that sacrifice then in essence God choose to punish himself but reason follows he could also have said lets just forget it because lets face it he's God so what am I to make of that?

To Joe Kentucky ,,,,my question is what do you make of that?

Answer 1

ok the trinity is a hard thing to understand talk to a pastor here is not the place to go for such a serious question,you will get alot of false answers, the father the son and the holy ghost are the three in one...a pastor will help you to understand

Answer 2

He isn't that is just plain stupid. He prayed to himself?
Matthew 24:36 He said that he nor the angels knew but only the father. If he was the father wouldn't he know.
Acts 7:59 Stephen saw the heavens opened up and there was jesus at the right hand of God.
Colossians 1:15 The almighty God created Jesus as the first of his creations of long ago. By means of him all other things were created in heaven and earth. Rev 3:14 He was the beginning of the creation by God.

Answer 3

God and Jesus are not one and the same person, that kind of belief comes from the pagan religions. Ps 2:7, Rev 3:14, clearly state that Jesus was begotten and that He is the beginning of the creation of God, then how can He be the beginning of Himself and His own Father and yet exist before Himself? This is asking us to believe in the impossible. Yes Jesus is Divine, but that does not make Him God, He is the Son of God. read John 14 and 17. and then there is the matter of the resurrection. Paul plainly states that God resurrected Jesus, and the Old Testament plainly states that God can not die, so if Jesus was God then He must still be hanging on that many times rotted away and replaced cross; or there is only One God and Jesus ain't it.

Answer 4

God has a universal law concerning sin: that is all sins must be punished or paid for. This is because in His infinite holiness, no sin can be left without being consumed by fire.

In almost all ancient religions and cultures, people have believed in offering sacrifices or the blood of animals as atonement for their sins, so that they may be acceptable before God. But we all know that the blood of animals cannot truely cover the sins of people. Only the blood and life of Jesus (who is God himself and sinless) is required for the true atonement of the sins of all who believe.

If God decides to cancel the sins of the world by simply forgetting about it like the way you mentioned above, it would be contrary to the very nature of God and that would make Him a hypocrite. He applied the rules of punishment for sins on himself that when all the sins of the world was on Him on the cross, He had to die for it.

Answer 5

Philosophically speaking. Since God created man in his image and likeness, it is not only Jesus who should be the same as God. Now, to say that Jesus is the begotten Son of God is a fallacy. He has to have a mother, who is supposed to be God's wife but ain't God against immorality? He knew Joseph was Mary's husband. Another thing, aren't you more confused to learn that Mary is the Queen of Heaven and Catholics chant always that Mary is the Mother of God? Mary, Gods' wife and at the same time God's mother? Many Prophets of the Old Testament have emphatically written that God said "There is no One before me, no One besides me and no One comes after me." How did God change His mind about this and lie about what He claim?
Numbers 23:13-14 God is not man that He should lie, nor a Son of man that he should change His mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does He promise and not fulfill?
Speaking of Queen of Heaven, read Rev.17: see what religions have made of an innocent and obedient young woman.

Answer 6

Jesus was not praying to himself he was praying to his Father. The Father is not the same person as the Son or the Spirit. They are three distinct persons who all comprise one God. We do not understand it because we have no concept of perfect union or perfect relationship. Since our birth we have lived in a world of broken relationships. The three members of the Godhead share an unbreakable bond of like thoughts, passions, joys, pains, affection, hate to such a degree that in one sense they cannot be separated. Jesus said, "I can do nothing of my own, but what I see my Father do in heaven." In other words, his greatest pleasure was in being like his Father. He had no desire to be independant. But they are distinct enough to communicate with each other. That is why only God really knows what it will take for unity to be realized on earth, he has been in a perfect relationship for all eternity.

Answer 7

The hypostatic union was a concept established by the Nicaean conference in the Byzantine? Empire. It claims that Jesus is God incarnate and being so, is subject to the laws of God. This concept, I believe, has a Deist overtone--if Jesus died, who caused his death? If humans killed Jesus, does that mean God, besides making humans mortal, is not what kills humans?!

Answer 8

I'm no specialist in Christian theology, but I think you're making a basic error when you assume Jesus and God are one in the same. If I'm not mistaken, Jesus is a seperate entity from God. As is the Holy Ghost.

Answer 9

Jesus is God's Son...they are not one and the same. They are one in agreement. They are both divine. God gave His Son to die...if they were the same...He would be giving His own self to die. He raised Jesus from the dead. Jesus said many times that He was here to do His Father's will....not His own.

Answer 10

Dude, whoever taught you religion must have just had fun with you. Who told you God and Jesus were the same? LMAO!

Answer 11

Lets face it, the concept of the trinity is absurd, it clearly is not reasonable, yet they are so adamant, it can't be reasoned on, yet they feel that those that don't buy into it are a "cult". Their reasoning's are so out-there. No it makes no sense.