Was it 351 Clevland, or Windsor. What was the Horse Power? and Why Was it Discontinued?
thanks for your help.
MaRk
2006-11-19 13:28:40 · 10 answers · asked by ziontheevilone 1 in Cars & Transportation ➔ Car Makes ➔ Ford
Well, looks like I need to continue my quest of enligtning the world as to the 351M (modified) engine. lol. The 351M engine was actually a de-stroked 400 (hence the "modified" designation. The block was a 400 block with specially designed crankshaft and connecting rods to de-stroke the engine to achieve the 351 cubes. The external parts were the same as the 400 (obviously) but internally unique. One of your answerers made the statement that the 351M was actually 400 cubic inches. That's like saying that someone that is 5'6'' tall is actually 6' tall! The 400 engine was used in the Ford cars (full size) from 1970 or 1971 through 1978, and used in the trucks from 1978 thru 1982. As I mentioned earlier, the 351M is a de-stroked 400. The 400 was a WORK HORSE. The 351M surprisingly, was a PIECE OF CRAP. Unlike the 351C (cleveland) and the 351W (windsor) that had quite a bit of power, the 351M never really stood up to what the other 351 cubic inch engines could do. Now to answer your question. The answer from the Chilton manual sounds right as far as horsepower. I do not have any of my old repair manuals in front of me as I write this, but that one I agree with. Now, how to tell if it is a Windsor , or Modified. First of all. the last year the Cleveland style engine was available was 1974, so we know it isn't that since you say the car is a 1975. Unless of course the engine and transmission were both replaced in its earlier life. However if it had originally been a 351W, the engine could have been replaced by a 351C. Doubtful, but anything is possible (mostly) when dealing with older cars. I say that because the 351W and 351C both had the small block bolt pattern on the transmission and the 351M/400 had the same bolt pattern as the 429/460. So let's get back to figuring out if you have a 351M or a 351W. The Windsor engines had narrower valve covers and the top of the valve covers would be somewhere in the 4'' range, and be trapazoidal in shape. The 351M valve covers would be more like 6'' wide or so and be more rectangualar in shape. Now. Do you have the Gran Torino, or the Gran Torino Elite? The regular Gran Torino looked like a Starsky and Hutch car. That's what theirs was, a 2 door. Most were the 4 door variety. The Gran Torino Elite was the forunner to the '77 to '79 LTD II and the '77 to '79 T-Birds, Cougars and 2 door Continentals. So, Mark, that is why they were discontinued. They decided to continue with the one body style. It was simply a matter of progression. The Gran Torino had been a Torino, and the Torino had been a Fairlane. Even as a Ford Fan myself, it can be confusing unless you have been around them a lot, and still it's a little confusing.
2006-11-19 18:51:11 · answer #1 · answered by pygmybilly 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
In 1975 there was no 351 cleveland.
The 351M came out due to emission standards, and the other engines internal were changed.
2006-11-19 23:25:32 · answer #2 · answered by kayef57 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It was a 351 Windsor, they've gotten rid of the Grand Torino in favor of the LTD II (which was a piece of junk) and the LTD II wasn't a huge success in the market.
2006-11-19 13:46:06 · answer #3 · answered by Fell In Love 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
351M. The M stand for Modified, this engine is actually 400 cubic inches. I have one in my garage that we pulled out of a '75 Gran Torino. Horsepower was around 200, with the two barrel carb.
2006-11-19 15:12:01 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Well I'm no expert, but I think in '75 it would have had a 351m wich is different from the Clevland.
2006-11-19 13:32:07 · answer #5 · answered by mad_mav70 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
351 windsor = 6 bolts per valve cover
351 m & c = 8 bolts per valve cover
2006-11-20 08:59:28 · answer #6 · answered by 1diputs 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
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2016-12-29 05:57:00 · answer #7 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Chilton says they used both the 351W and the 351M in the 75 Torino. 351W was rated 143-153hp and the 351M was rated 148-150.
2006-11-19 14:51:49 · answer #8 · answered by Tim B 1 · 1⤊ 0⤋
My Dad used to say FORD stood for Fix or repair daily. The Grand Torinos were nice looking cars but like all Fords they were lemons.
Here is a good link you can read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Torino
The gad mileage issue had a lot to do with discontinuing this great old car.
2006-11-19 13:37:56 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 3⤋
Heck yeah, it was discontinued, it was a 75 torino.
2006-11-19 14:39:51 · answer #10 · answered by done wrenching 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋