CHRISTIANS: if our morality originates from god then non-believers have no morality??agree or disagree??

Question

If you follow the christian morality code anybody who is not born again is without morals.
I submit to you that we are born with morals.
Do my children steal,kill,or curse other people? no.
So your logic of morality is incorrect.If you go by that reasoning,then all non-believers are not worthy of political positions.We cannot be considered good.Cannot you see man has written this in your bible to pollute your mind with fascism.
This is the perfect weapon to ostracize bad people into conformity.
You christians are being deluded into subconsciously hating bad people.After all,if we don't have morals,then we are bad.Cannot you see that your bible is man-made.Only man can produce hatred.Your bible is only considered Gods word because the Romans voted upon your bible to say its authored by god.What a joke! Your bible demands you to respond to my question with only positive remarks.Please don't be a hypocrite by not adhering to your bible.

Answer 1

What an astute young fellow you are. Good job and a thumbs up for you.

Answer 2

You are born with a sin nature without any morality. Romans 5: 12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Romans 3: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; If you believe and trust in what the Lord Jesus Christ did for you on the cross. He died for your sins, He was buried and took your sins away and He rose again for your justification. Then you become the Temple of God because the Holy Spirit lives within you. There is a war going on between the body and the Holy Spirit The body still sins if you let it. It has nothing to do with morality. We know by nature what right and wrong and we have to chose. Romans 2: 14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

Answer 3

Morality does originate with God, I agree. But non-believers are not without a sense of morality.

Morality is based on a sense or right and wrong. Can we agree on that? If so, then the Bible speaks directly to the issue, which is a wonderful source of truth, though I understand you may not agree with that statement.

The result of Adam & Eve's sin in eating of the forbidden tree, was that they would know good and evil. That's found in Genesis 3 (below).
Genesis 1 says man was made in God's image, but after the disobedience of chapter 3, it says in Genesis 5, that Adams son Seth was born in Adam's image (sinful) rather than in God's image (sinless).

That is mankind's bloodline according to scriptures, so all men (believer and non-believer alike) would be born in the sinful image of fallen Adam, from Seth to today. We would also be born with the knowledge of good and evil, right and wrong. Hence, all men born after Adam have a sense of morality. Morality does not belong to believers only. It is a Godly trait according to the Bible that all men are born with.

Being a believer gives a person the opportunity to proclaim Jesus' sacrifice as payment of Adam's sin, and therefore their own also.

Non-believers have morality. Believers have morality. We start out on equal footing on this topic. The passages below are integral to my position. Hope I didn't sound too "preachy," but there is a Biblical sense of logic here.

Answer 4

I'm sorry, but there is no "Christian morality code" which states that anybody who is not born again is without morals. That simply is not true.

Of course we have morals, all of us, and yes, they originate from God. Becoming a Christian does not give you morals. Becoming a Christian means that you adhere to the teachings and principles of Jesus, it means that you agree to make Him Lord over your life.

I completely disagree that with your statement about the Bible being Gods word only because the Romans voted upon it that way, history says different.

But yes, my Bible demands that I respond to your question with positive remarks, so I will answer that you are positively incorrect in your thinking! lol sorry I just had to do that.

Answer 5

My bible is a collection of 66 books written by 40 different authors over a period of 1500 years with complete consistency and unity of theme and purpose. It contains mathematical signs & codes so complex no human or computer could have ever produced these features. It is verified to be 100% accurate historically, geographically, archaeologically and is scientifically proven.

The book "The Signature of God" by Grany Jeffrey tells of some of this research if you're interested :-) God bless :-)

Answer 6

I don't think a moral person has anything necessarily to do with being a born again Christian(which I am). I think it has to do more with abiding by the morals of the culture in which you live, and in the case of the Western societies, we are based on the Judeo-Christian ethic, but one doesn't need to be Christian to abide by those common ethics, as many other religions also basically believe similarly.
Christian mean accepting Christ as Savior, John 3 : 16; good Christians, bad Christians and everything in between, not all moral, but Christian if you believe in Christ as savior.

Answer 7

I don't know who told you that non-believers have no morals but that is not true. As Christians, we believe that a person can be the best person in the world but without believing in God then all the good deeds are without purpose. No matter who or what you believe in, there has to be a central purpose to the things that you do. For example the basic laws that we have here in the US is roughly based from the Bible. Without this then the whole base of our society would total chaos. Logic demands that we must have order to balance "evil" in order to survive. Everyone has good within them as well as evil. But as Christians we must believe in the greater good"GOD" in order to survive. Even if you don't believe in God, at least you have to believe in something, no matter if it is God, money, fame, or anything else.
Good Luck

Answer 8

I believe that God wants us to be moral, and he cares more about that than whether or not we believe in him. Killing is immoral not because God said not to do it. God said not to do it because it was immoral. Even God is therefore bound by the laws of morality, because they are primordial. How can we know whether God is a good God or an evil God? We judge this based on a set of moral principles. If God MADE the moral principles, then how could one ever say whether God was good or evil? Whatever he said would just go, no matter what.

So, whether you are an Atheist or a Theist has no bearing on your morals.

Answer 9

You have a skewed view of what our beleifs are. We dont beleive that you get morals when you are "born again". We beleive exactly what you said. Everyone is born with morals. We beleive that god has infused the knowledge of good into everyones heart.

Secondly, we do not have to respond to this post with onjly postive remarks. Jesus came to rbing division. We are entitled by the bible to defend our religion couragously and without comprimise.

We do not hate bad people. All Christians know that they are sinners. All men are sinners. We are taught to hate NO ONE.
I hope this has cleared up your understanding of our beleifs.

God bless,
Shane

Answer 10

Morality does not exist without God. It doesn't matter if you believe or not, or if agnostic. Morality comes from God, and is not contingent upon chance to surface in the human experience. Children are born with morals and they love with an unselfed love, regardless of the parents belief systems.
Your last paragraph doesn't apply to all.

Answer 11

No. My father became right into a preacher. My mom led her church's missionary society. I went to church my first 18 years, and prayer conferences, and that i've got examine the full Bible. I observed as myself a Christian till i became into approximately sixteen. Then i got here across scientific empiricism and observed how plenty greater efficacious that's than prayer at extremely getting something executed. i spotted that faith prospers while its ideals are actually not puzzled, while technological awareness prospers while its ideals ARE puzzled. i desperate that faith became into like the Wizard of oz, telling human beings "Pay No interest To the guy at the back of the scenes," to the hidden egocentric pastimes at the back of the myths. and that i desperate that technological awareness is plenty greater hassle-free, that its ideals had the greater effective epistemology, and that those have been the excuses it would desire to be depended directly to make the lights furniture come on, or anticipate the place the planets could be seen contained in the sky, mutually as faith sucked while it got here to doing something genuine. i think of that if Christians stopped being hypocrites, then that they had stop being Christians, too. (If Jews stopped being hypocrites, on the different hand, they might nevertheless be Jews, yet that they had might desire to stop pretending that Zionism isn't a marketing campaign to offer the Jews possession of the worldwide and lordship over all of us else.)