Te following quotes make me wonder: Matthew 10:28 " And fear not them that kill the body, but rather fear Him that can destroy both soul and body in hell" Revelation 21:8 "But the fearful and unbelieving....shall have their part in the lake which burneth..which is the second death" Revelation 20:14 " And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death." Revelation 2:11 "He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death." Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death?"According to these quotes from the Bible, hell seems to be death after death rather than eternal torture and the rich man does say he is tormented in the flame but does not say he is being tormented forever. Is hell permanent punishment or eternal punishing? Since faith alone is not enough(Mt. 7:21"Not everyone that says unto me Lord, Lord shall enter the kindom of heaven but him that does the will of my father"?)did Christ come to save us from death in hell rather than eternal torture?
2006-11-19 08:50:13 · 10 answers · asked by Wildfire 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Clarkie and other potential preachers: I am not about to list here the things I do for others or my Christian works. This is not about me justifying myself but a genuine question about doctrine which has been troubling me for quite some time. Thanks
2006-11-19 08:57:10 · update #1
What kind of loving God would burn people in hell forever? Not the God I serve. Eternal life is only promised to the righteous, never to the wicked, the gift of God is eternal life (Romans 6:23) given to those who accept Christ (John 3:16). Sodom and Gommorrah were destroyed by eternal hellfire (Jude), they are not still burning. The verse in Revelation 14 states that the smoke of their torment ascends for ever and ever. It does not state that the torment is forever. In addition, forever does not always mean forever. Jonah states that he was in the belly of the whale forever although it was only 3 days. It probably seemed like forever to him. God will make and utter end of sin. Sin and sinners will be no more. Even Satan and his evil angels will be destroyed in the fires of hell. Then God will create an earth made new without sin and sinners to pollute it.
2006-11-19 09:02:55 · answer #1 · answered by 19jay63 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Why does it matter now. Jesus came said follow me and you will not regret it. Hit your thumb with a hammer once or forever either way it is not an experience I want to repeat. One thong is obvious from Biblical scripture and others, there is an experience after death and we can take a chance with what that future might be, or we can say Jesus help me and then accept His help and if you do both, then He says there is a reward. Nobody else much offering a reward that I know of. If in your future what you want is to stop existing I'd say the best bet for that is to take the Jesus route and when the time comes and that is still your desire then ask for it when you can actually know all the options and what they are about. My bet is there is an opt out clause He gave us one here right ??
2006-11-19 09:02:29 · answer #2 · answered by icheeknows 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
A gentler, kinder vision of hell, I guess.
Option 1: No worship, eternal torture. That sucks.
Option 2: No worship, you just die forever (redundant, I know). Fair enough.
Option 3: Worship and you will live forever. Nice dream but logically absurd.
You can see why Option 1 is the preferred choice of scriptural interpretation - it's the most persuasive.
2006-11-19 09:02:02 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
The death here is the death of the spirit, not the body. Jesus' death on the cross was of the body. The reason hell is eternal is because it is an absence of God by those who reject Him who paid the price. Like if your buddy buys you a beer and you tell him no-thanks, you have to buy your own - pay the price yourself. In this case we essentially have Jesus handing out tickets to heaven, where you can be forever in the presence of God, and God fulfills the wishes of those who reject Him by staying away. He's like the battery your spirit runs on - without Him no life. "Is Jesus presently being eternally tortured in place of those who accepted Him as Lord?" Maybe His eternal torture is watching people who reject him float around with no life in their spirit.
2016-05-22 04:22:13 · answer #4 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The punishing is eternal. The existence of hell is eternal, so as long as you are there, you are undergoing punishment. When you leave hell, the punishing ends for you, but those in hell will always under go punishment.
2006-11-19 08:52:43 · answer #5 · answered by brucenjacobs 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Hell is both eternal punishment and eternal punishing. It's where you are sent when you have sinned and have not excepted god therfore you haven't been forgiven. Basically, hell is where you go to be punished and I would assume that you would be punished while you were there. I hope that helped a bit.
2006-11-19 08:56:12 · answer #6 · answered by divaintraing 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Wouldn't god be more pleased if you took the time you're using on the semantics of this question, and applied that time to actually DOING something for someone in need?
You could have made a sandwich and given it to a homeless person in the time it took you to research and write all that!
I'm not a potential preacher.
Far from it
I am merely someone who does works, not deciphers them
2006-11-19 08:53:46 · answer #7 · answered by Clarkie 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Hell is eternal life spent without Jesus Christ.
2006-11-19 09:31:41 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Gosh, I will have to look over these (context) but it does seem to me that it is punishment. There is one verse that is playing at the edge of my mind that (in Rev) talks about the torment ascending forever.
Thanks for bringing this to light!
2006-11-19 08:55:20 · answer #9 · answered by newcovenant0 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I really think it's both.
2006-11-19 08:51:50 · answer #10 · answered by Kerilyn 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋