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did the Apostates continue to follow it after his death? We see that it was only until Paul did Christians start droping OT laws and mainly for gentile converts.

I mean didn't the Apostates know that the law was not nessicary anymore?

2006-11-19 07:53:42 · 10 answers · asked by Gamla Joe 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

habit? are you serious? Their are plenty of things they could have stopped doing in private and if it was habit then why the intial opposition to Paul?

2006-11-19 08:00:34 · update #1

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HABIT many lived within Jewish society,
the error of your logic is that that you are equating the apostles ability not to follow the laws with their ability to choose to do so

2006-11-19 07:56:47 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Good question. I wondered this myself before learning Greek and being able to read how advanced Paul's writing was (in Greek I mean), then the answer became incredibly clear. The early apostles, who were mostly fishermen, were frankly not brilliant in matters of theology, and if you read the gospels you will frequently come across instances where the disciples asked Jesus what the heck was he talking about. They weren't the brightest of men, and so when Paul came along he was able to digest and interpret the theological meaning of everything because Paul's education was like the Harvard or Oxford of his day.

The Law (which Christians call the Old Testament) was very sacred to the Jews, and the idea that they were to give it up was not an insignificant change. Eventually Peter and Paul had debates concerning this, but it was Paul, the most zealous and trained of Jewish theologians, who realized that Gentiles could come to Christ by way of Grace, and not by following traditional Jewish customs.

So yeah, on side I would say the early apostles did not give up the law because of tradition, and second because they were not really the smartest of guys to fully interpret the weight of Jesus' message.

2006-11-19 16:10:34 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Who says that the law is not necessary anymore. Paul pointed all the way from Romans through Galatians, of how important the LAW is (10 Commandments). Read Romans 3:19, Romans 7:7-12, Galatians 3:24. Outside that read 1 John 3:4
Jesus rebuke and confronted people using the Law too. (the Samaritan woman, the rich man, Pharisees,etc).
The unnecessary law are the civic law and the man made law, that's why Paul confronted Peter about this.
By understanding your sin, you will appreciate more of grace that has been given .

Romans 7:7
"I would not have known what sin was except through the law"

2006-11-19 16:13:47 · answer #3 · answered by It's not about me 3 · 0 0

Paul rebuked the Galatians for this very reason as they were saved and after this they started to keep the law. Paul called them fools as he couldn't believe that they had been made perfect in Christ and then after wards started to keep the law as well. Note here that the law was only ever given to the Children of Israel and never to us (Gentiles)

2006-11-19 15:59:54 · answer #4 · answered by mandbturner3699 5 · 0 0

Thats what apostasy is.

The word “apostasy” comes from a Greek term that means “a standing away from,” “a falling away, defection,” “rebellion, abandonment.” The first one to fall away from the true worship of Jehovah was Satan the Devil. He was therefore the first apostate. (John 8:44) He caused the first human couple to become apostates. (Genesis, chapter 3)

2006-11-19 16:04:20 · answer #5 · answered by papavero 6 · 0 0

Just as it took the Israelites 40 years of wandering in the desert to get the "Egyptian" out of them, it took 40 years to get the "Jew" out of the Christians.

Nothing happens overnight, nor does it need to.

And just in case you thnk there's no law in existence today, you're wrong.

Jesus gave his new covenant church the power to make laws to govern all Christians.

The revised ten commandments, plus a few new precepts to go along with them, constitute the new covenant version of the old law.

2006-11-19 19:50:04 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

At first the Apostles did not know. It took a vision from God Himself to get Peter to go and talk to a non-Jew.

Read the Bible. Acts of the Apostle.

2006-11-19 16:06:38 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

When a person first accepts Christ he does not all of a sudden change his life style, it takes awhile to stop doing some of the things that you have been doing.

2006-11-19 15:59:28 · answer #8 · answered by Messenger 3 · 0 0

Wasn't it Jesus who said, 'I have not come to destroy the law, but to fulfill it'?

2006-11-19 16:01:16 · answer #9 · answered by jewel_flower 4 · 0 0

These are few versus in the Quran that confirms that Jesus fulfilled the law........

The Holy Quran : Chapter: 3 (Al-`Imran), Verse:46

[3:46] When the angels said, 'O Mary, God gives thee glad tidings of a son through a Word from Him; his name shall be the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, honoured in this world and in the next, and of those who are granted nearness to God;

The Holy Quran : Chapter: 2 (Al-Baqarah), Verse:88

[2:88] And verily We gave Moses the Book and caused Messengers to follow in his footsteps after him; and to Jesus, son of Mary, We gave manifest Signs, and strengthened him with the Spirit of Holiness. Will you, then, every time a Messenger comes to you with what you yourselves desire not, behave arrogantly and treat some as liars and slay others?

The Holy Quran : Chapter: 2 (Al-Baqarah), Verse:254

[2:254] These messengers have We exalted some of them above others; among them there are those to whom God spoke; and some of them He exalted in degrees of rank. And We gave Jesus, son of Mary, clear proofs and strengthened him with the spirit of holiness. And if God had so willed, those that came after them would not have fought with one another after clear Signs had come to them; but they did disagree. Of them were some who believed, and of them were some who disbelieved. And if God had so willed, they would not have fought with one another; but he Lord does what He desires

The Holy Quran : Chapter: 5 (Al-Ma'idah), Verse:47

[5:47] And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps, fulfilling that which was revealed before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel which contained guidance and light, fulfilling that which was revealed before him in the Torah; and a guidance and an admonition for the God-fearing


The Holy Quran : Chapter: 3 (Al-`Imran), Verse:85

[3:85] Say, 'We believe in God and that which has been revealed to us, and that which was revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and in that which was given to Moses and Jesus and other Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them and to Him we submit.'

The Holy Quran : Chapter: 3 (Al-`Imran), Verse:53

[3:53] And when Jesus perceived their disbelief, he said, 'Who will be my helpers in the cause of God?' The disciples answered, 'We are the helpers of God. We have believed in our Lord. And bear thou witness that we are obedient;'

The Holy Quran : Chapter: 3 (Al-`Imran), Verse:56

[3:56] Remember the time when God said, 'O Jesus, I will cause thee to die a natural death and will raise thee to Myself, and will clear thee of the charges of those who disbelieve, and will exalt those who follow thee above those who disbelieve, until the Day of Resurrection; then to Me shall be your return, and I will judge between you concerning that wherein you differ.'


The Holy Quran : Chapter: 4 (Al-Nisa'), Verse:158

[4:158] And for their saying, 'We did slay the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of God;' whereas they slew him not, nor did they bring about his death upon the cross, but he was made to appear to them like one crucified; and those who differ therein are certainly in a state of doubt about it; they have no certain knowledge thereof, but only pursue a conjecture; and they did not arrive at a certainty concerning it.

The Holy Quran : Chapter: 5 (Al-Ma'idah), Verse:111
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[5:111] When God will say, 'O Jesus son of Mary, remember My favour upon thee and upon thy mother; When I strengthened thee with the spirit of holiness so that thou didst speak to the people in the cradle and when of middle age; and when I taught thee the Book and the wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel; and when thou didst fashion a creation out of clay, in the likeness of a bird, by My command; then thou didst breathe into it a new spirit and it became a soaring being by My command; and thou didst heal the night-blind and the leprous by My command; and when thou didst raise the dead by My command; and when I restrained the Children of Israel from putting thee to death when thou didst come to them with clear Signs; and those who disbelieved from among them said, 'This is nothing but clear deception.'

The Holy Quran : Chapter: 5 (Al-Ma'idah), Verse:117
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[5:117] And when God will say, 'O Jesus, son of Mary, didst thou say to men, 'Take me and my mother for two gods beside God?' he will answer, 'Holy art THOU, I could never say that which I had no right. If I had said it, Thou wouldst have surely known it. Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I know not what is in Thy mind. It is Thou alone Who art the Knower of all hidden things;

The Holy Quran : Chapter: 19 (Maryam), Verse:31

[19:31] Jesus said, 'I am a servant of God. He has given me the Book, and has made me a Prophet;

The Holy Quran : Chapter: 19 (Maryam), Verse:37

[19:37] Said Jesus, 'Surely, God is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him alone, this is the right path.'

The Holy Quran : Chapter: 42 (Al-Shura), Verse:14

[42:14] He has prescribed for you the religion which He enjoined on Noah, and which We have now revealed to thee, and which We enjoined on Abraham and Moses and Jesus, viz., 'Establish obedience to God in the earth, and be not divided therein. Hard upon the idolaters is that to which thou callest them. God chooses for Himself whom He pleases, and guides to Himself him who turns to Him.'

The Holy Quran : Chapter: 57 (Al-Hadid), Verse:28

[57:28] Then We caused Our Messengers to follow in their footsteps; and We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow them, and We gave him the Gospel. And We put compassion and mercy in the hearts of those who followed him. And monasticism they invented - We did not prescribe it for them - for the seeking of God's pleasure; but they observed it not as it should be observed. Yet We gave those of them, who believed, their due reward, but many of them are rebellious.

The Holy Quran : Chapter: 61 (Al-Saff), Verse:7
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[61:7] And call to mind when Jesus, son of Mary, said, 'O children of Israel, surely, I am God's Messenger unto you, fulfilling that which is before me of the prophecies of the Torah, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger who will come after me, his name being The Praised One(Muhammad). And when he came to them with clear proofs, they said, this is manifest sorcery.'

The Holy Quran : Chapter: 61 (Al-Saff), Verse:15

[61:15] O ye who believe! be helpers of God, as said Jesus, son of Mary, to his disciples, 'Who are my helpers in the cause of God?' The disciples said, 'We are helpers of God.' So a party of the Children of Israel believed while a party disbelieved. Then We aided those who believed against their enemy, and they became predominant.

The Holy Quran : Chapter: 6 (Al-An`am), Verse:86

[6:86] And We guided Zachariah and John and Jesus and Elias; each one of them was of the righteous.

[19:35] That was Jesus, son of Mary. This is a statement of the truth concerning which they entertain doubt.

2006-11-19 22:54:37 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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