I keep seeing answers that use science as a way to explain away God.?

Question

My question is who created science?

If science was created by men who gave them the knowledge to come up with it?

Answer 1

Then how about science that explains God.



LEARNING From Designs in Nature
"Many of our best inventions are copied from, or already in use by, other living things."—Phil Gates, Wild Technology.

AS MENTIONED in the preceding article, the aim of the science of biomimetics is to produce more complex materials and machines by imitating nature. Nature manufactures its products without causing pollution, and they tend to be resilient and light, yet incredibly strong.

For example, ounce for ounce, bone is stronger than steel. What is its secret? Part of the answer lies in its well-engineered shape, but the key reasons lie deeper—at the molecular level. "The success of living organisms lies in the design and assembly of their smallest components," explains Gates. As a result of peering into these smallest components, scientists have isolated the substances that give natural products from bone to silk their envied strength and light weight. These substances, they have discovered, are various forms of natural composites.

Ounce for ounce, bone is stronger than steel

The Miracle of Composites
Composites are solid materials that result when two or more substances are combined to form a new substance containing properties that are superior to those of the original ingredients. This can be illustrated by the synthetic composite fiberglass, which is commonly used in boat hulls, fishing rods, bows, arrows, and other sporting goods.* Fiberglass is made by setting fine fibers of glass in a liquid or jellylike matrix of plastic (called a polymer). When the polymer hardens, or sets, the end result is a composite that is lightweight, strong, and flexible. If the kinds of fibers and the matrix are varied, an enormously broad range of products can be made. Of course, man-made composites are still crude compared with those found naturally in humans, animals, and plants.

In humans and animals, instead of fibers of glass or carbon, a fibrous protein called collagen forms the basis of the composites that give strength to skin, intestines, cartilage, tendons, bones, and teeth (except for the enamel).# One reference work describes collagen-based composites as being "among the most advanced structural composite materials known."

For example, consider tendons, which tie muscle to bone. Tendons are remarkable, not just because of the toughness of their collagen-based fibers but also because of the brilliant way these fibers are woven together. In her book Biomimicry, Janine Benyus writes that the unraveled tendon "is almost unbelievable in its multileveled precision. The tendon in your forearm is a twisted bundle of cables, like the cables used in a suspension bridge. Each individual cable is itself a twisted bundle of thinner cables. Each of these thinner cables is itself a twisted bundle of molecules, which are, of course, twisted, helical bundles of atoms. Again and again a mathematical beauty unfolds." It is, she says, "engineering brilliance." Is it any surprise that scientists speak of being inspired by nature's designs?—Compare Job 40:15, 17.

As mentioned, man-made composites pale when compared with those of nature. Still, synthetics are remarkable products. In fact, they are listed among the ten most outstanding engineering achievements of the past 25 years. For example, composites based on graphite or carbon fibers have led to new generations of aircraft and spacecraft parts, sporting goods, Formula One race cars, yachts, and lightweight artificial limbs—to mention just a few items in a rapidly growing inventory.

A woodpecker's brain is protected by very dense bone that acts as a shock absorber

An Extinct Fly Helps to Improve Solar Panels
While visiting a museum, a scientist saw pictures of an extinct fly preserved in amber, says a report in New Scientist magazine. He noticed a series of gratings on the insect's eyes and suspected that these might have helped the fly's eyes to capture more light, especially at very oblique angles. He and other researchers began conducting experiments and confirmed their hunch.

Scientists soon made plans to try to etch the same pattern of gratings onto the glass of solar panels. This, they hope, will increase the energy generated by solar panels. It might also eliminate the need for the costly tracking systems presently required to keep solar panels pointed at the sun. Better solar panels may mean less fossil fuel use and, thus, less pollution—a worthy goal. Clearly, discoveries like this one help us to appreciate that nature is a veritable mother lode of brilliant designs just waiting to be found, understood and, where possible, copied in useful ways.


Multifunctional, Miraculous Blubber
Whales and dolphins don't know it, but their bodies are wrapped in a miracle tissue—blubber, a form of fat. "Whale blubber is perhaps the most multifunctional material we know," says the book Biomimetics: Design and Processing of Materials. Explaining why, it adds that blubber is a marvelous flotation device and so helps whales surface for air. It provides these warm-blooded mammals with excellent insulation against the cold of the ocean. And it is also the best possible food reserve during nonfeeding migrations over thousands of miles. Indeed, ounce for ounce, fat yields between two and three times as much energy as protein and sugar.

"Blubber is also a very bouncy rubberlike material," according to the above-mentioned book. "Our best estimate now is that acceleration caused by the elastic recoil of blubber that is compressed and stretched with each tail stroke may save up to 20% of the cost of locomotion during extended periods of continuous swimming."

Blubber has been harvested for centuries, yet only recently has it come to light that about half the volume of blubber consists of a complex mesh of collagen fibers wrapped around each animal. Although scientists are still trying to fathom the workings of this fat-composite mix, they believe that they have discovered yet another miracle product that would have many useful applications if produced synthetically.


Spider silk is five times stronger than steel, yet highly elastic
An Eight-Legged Engineering Genius
In recent years scientists have also been looking very closely at the spider. They are keen to understand how it manufactures spider silk, which is also a composite. True, a broad range of insects produce silk, yet spider silk is special. One of the strongest materials on earth, it "is the stuff that dreams are made of," said one science writer. Spider silk is so outstanding that a list of its amazing properties would seem unbelievable.

Why do scientists use superlatives when describing spider silk? Besides being five times stronger than steel, it is also highly elastic—a rare combination in materials. Spider silk stretches 30 percent farther than the most elastic nylon. Yet, it does not bounce like a trampoline and so throw the spider's meal into the air. "On the human scale," says Science News, "a web resembling a fishing net could catch a passenger plane."

If we could copy the spider's chemical wizardry—two species even produce seven varieties of silk—imagine how it could be put to use! In vastly improved seat belts as well as in sutures, artificial ligaments, lightweight lines and cables, and bulletproof fabrics, to name just a few possibilities. Scientists are also trying to understand how the spider makes silk so efficiently—and without the use of toxic chemicals.


The ruby-throated hummingbird makes a 600-mile [1,000 km] journey on less than one tenth of an ounce [3 g] of fuel
Nature's Gearboxes and Jet Engines
Gearboxes and jet engines keep today's world on the move. But did you know that nature also beat us to these designs? Take the gearbox, for example. Gearboxes allow you to change gears in your vehicle so as to get the most efficient use out of the motor. Nature's gearbox does the same, but it does not link engine to wheels. Rather, it links wings to wings! And where can it be found? In the common fly. The fly has a three-speed gearshift connected to its wings, allowing it to change gears while in the air!

The nautilus has special chambers that enable it to regulate its buoyancy

The squid uses a form of jet propulsion
The squid, the octopus, and the nautilus all have a form of jet propulsion that drives them through the water. Scientists view these jets with envy. Why? Because they are composed of soft parts that cannot break, that can withstand great depths, and that run silently and efficiently. In fact, a squid can jet along at up to 20 miles [32 km] an hour when fleeing predators, "sometimes even leaping out of the water and onto the decks of ships," says the book Wild Technology.

Yes, taking just a few moments to reflect on the natural world can fill us with awe and appreciation. Nature truly is a living puzzle that prompts one question after another: What chemical marvels ignite the brilliant, cold light in fireflies and certain algae? How do various arctic fish and frogs, after being frozen solid for the winter, become active again when they thaw out? How do whales and seals stay under the water for long periods without a breathing apparatus? And how do they repeatedly dive to great depths without getting decompression sickness, commonly called the bends? How do chameleons and cuttlefish change color to blend with their surroundings? How do hummingbirds cross the Gulf of Mexico on less than one tenth of an ounce [3 gm] of fuel? It seems that the list of questions could go on endlessly.

Truly, humans can only look on and wonder. Scientists develop an awe "bordering on reverence" when they study nature, says the book Biomimicry.


Chameleons change color to blend with their surroundings
Behind the Design—A Designer!
Associate professor of biochemistry Michael Behe stated that one result of recent discoveries within the living cell "is a loud, clear, piercing cry of 'design!'" He added that this result of efforts to study the cell "is so unambiguous and so significant that it must be ranked as one of the greatest achievements in the history of science."

Understandably, evidence of a Designer creates problems for those who adhere to the theory of evolution, for evolution cannot account for the sophisticated design within living things, especially at the cellular and molecular levels. "There are compelling reasons," says Behe, "to think that a Darwinian explanation for the mechanisms of life will forever prove elusive."

In Darwin's time the living cell—the foundation of life—was thought to be simple, and the theory of evolution was conceived in that era of relative ignorance. But now science has gone past that. Molecular biology and biomimetics have proved beyond all doubt that the cell is an extraordinarily complex system packed with exquisite, perfect designs that make the inner workings of our most sophisticated gadgets and machines look like child's play by comparison.

Giving Credit Where It Is Due
In 1957, Swiss engineer George de Mestral noticed that the small, tenacious burs clinging to his clothes were covered with tiny hooks. He studied these burs and their hooks, and soon his creative mind caught fire. He spent the next eight years developing a synthetic equivalent of the bur. His invention took the world by storm and is now a household name—Velcro.

Imagine how de Mestral would have felt had the world been told that no one designed Velcro, that it just happened as the result of a string of thousands of accidents in a workshop. Clearly, fairness and justice demand that credit be given where it is due. Human inventors obtain patents to ensure that it is. Yes, it seems that humans deserve credit, financial rewards, and even praise for their creations, which are often inferior imitations of things in the natural world. Should not our wise Creator receive acknowledgment for his perfect originals?


Brilliant design leads us to the logical conclusion, says Behe, "that life was designed by an intelligent agent." Is it not reasonable, therefore, that this Agent also has a purpose, one that includes humans? If so, what is that purpose? And can we learn more about our Designer himself? The following article will examine those important questions.


Crocodile and alligator hides can deflect spears, arrows, and even bullets

* Strictly speaking, fiberglass refers to the glass fibers in the composite. However, in common usage the term refers to the composite itself, which is made of plastic and fiberglass.

# Vegetable composites are based on cellulose rather than collagen. Cellulose gives wood many of its coveted qualities as a building material. Cellulose has been described as a "tensile material without peer."

Answer 2

Many scientist have become believers because of their work in various fields. It depends on the heart condition of the person. Those that are bent on making a mockery of a Divine Creator will never get the point. Just like you stated about that an archaeologist can see a rough stone and attribute the shape to chance until he would find it shaped perfectly in a form such as a human, then if he was being logical he would say: ‘Someone made this.’ Using similar reasoning, the Bible states: “Every house is constructed by someone, but he that constructed all things is God.” (Hebrews 3:4) This scripture can sum it up as well: 1 Cor. 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God; for it is written: "He catches the wise in their own cunning." Man should never be so high-minded that he cannot clearly SEE that God knows far more than he will ever know.

Answer 3

The concept of God, energies , dieties can be proven through scientific method , using experimentation and replication to achieve the same , Science and valid religious information are not incompatible , in fact there once was a very prominent secret society whos motto was the aim of religion , the method of science . just for example if I undertake some form of religious ritual , seeking specific results , lets say it works, if I then replicate the circumstances and success again ,then does this not scientifially validate the ritual and hence prove the existence of a higher energy

Answer 4

I used to think God used and created science to create the world, but as I got older I don't believe in that anymore.
Interesting question though..

Answer 5

Dear Pamela:

Yes! And I would like to mention the following about it:

Atheism has been, amongst a host of other "reasons," due to not wanting to believe in anything that can not be proven. Not wanting to be duped! Of course this leads to not acknowledging there is anything but physical matter called brain and the Intellect. No integrated thoughts about what more lies within us. Just Intellect.

Science has decided God can not be disproved or thrown away, after all. Physics has found itself smack up against Him and is desperate to prove Him. (String theories (all 5) or M-Theory). But I tell you, He will never be a mathematical formula unless , and until , soul or spirit-mind within, is willing to bring forth its Knowledge of its Creator (which it shares with His divine Presence) . Only soul/spirit can direct a Scientist to proper understanding of the Order of Creation. Science is, after all, inspiration - inspired to know of it's Self. But, then, at best, you have still a cold calculation of Science - about the Created and it's Creator - with no experience of His divine nature; the ecstasy, the unlimited-ness, the Unopposed force of the Creative Being, of Who we are a part.

The Intellect is of logic and reasoning. It deduces and judges. God is Knowledge and Knowing.

The Great Separation also has caused a failure in our willingness - to acknowledge that behind the Intellect lies Spirit: The Seat of your Knowledge. Until you understand soul/spirit - you can not know your Self.

Intellect is a mental exercise. It changes, shifts, and alters. But, Knowledge is unalterable.

The evolution of earth contains the Creator existing along with it. Integration.


Best regards, Lana

Answer 6

You are mistaken in assuming it was a WHO that allowed us to use our brains to gain knowledge...

When our species was still in the wild, and still hunting, and being hunted, we developed, through slow increments, a way to communicate with each other... When we started to communicate, our brains became larger, and smarter. Communication actually requires a lot of brain power, and those who could communicate better were more capable of working together. And, as we know, working together gives a much better chance of survival in the wild... Eventually the ones who were mentally equipped enough to communicate were the ones who got the chance to make offspring more often. Then, over time, the few who were able to communicate eventually became the majority. With a lot more communicators now, we were all naturally becoming smarter. This process continued all the way to the point of contemplation. Once we were able to deduce facts from the world we see, is when the first scientific endeavors began...

Answer 7

science doesn't explain away god; it's another way of looking at the universe.

your second question, "If science was created by men who gave them the knowledge to come up with it?," you assume knowledge was given by an external entity. maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. but your question is not going to win any converts; it's not aimed at those who don't share your foundation assumptions.

Answer 8

science versus god, the ultimate battle, one is logic the other is beliefs. so, say you are the world's most intelligent scientist, would you still believe in god? would you tell other people he did not create micro-organisms? if science wins, who cares? we need to believe in a greater good to do the right thing in life. so in a battle between god and science, we need them both.

Answer 9

"If science was created by men who gave them the knowledge to come up with it?"

No one, there isn't a "who" behind everything.

Answer 10

Science cannot explain God...nor can it explain God away. Both are an exercise in futility.

Answer 11

Good question and answer. God can't be explained away. He will always be here.

John 17-5
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had (WITH) the (BEFORE) the world was.