Its a good point, maybe they shouldn't smoke using the same arguement that they don't use animal tested cosmetics.
But how far would we take this arguement ? Would vegans refuse to wear cotton because they were once tested on animals for allergic reactions to the dyes, or because harvesting the cotton might reduce the habitat for animals
I think the bulk fo the vegan arguement is about diet and direct impact on animals, such as using by-products for clothes.
If we say vegans shouldn't smoke because of the animal testing, then this would also apply to most veggies in my opinion ( I don't see how anyone calling themselves a veggiee or vegan can wear leather, it just doesn't make sense )
Its very easy to pick inconsistancies at the fringe of every arguement or belief and then claim it negates the whole philosophy. although i normally find people do this when they haven't got a real arguement. I'm not saying you're doing this, you just asked the question in an unbiased, non insulting way which is a first for this forum.
Personally, even if vegans do smoke i'd still think the world was a better place for them not eating meat, or using its by products.
Thekray: ( just above ) Did you actually ask the vegans you met if thier shoes were leather or not ?
I buy my shoes from the VegetarianShoe Company in Brighton, none of which are leather and all of which look like leather.
Vegans would not wear leather shoes , coats , belts etc.
Nice to see a couple of meat-eaters managed to climb onto the B12 and energy bandwagons, have you no imagination ?
2006-11-07 04:06:12
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answered by Michael H 7
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The definition of "vegan" actually focuses on diet, so although most people who have interest in animal rights will not use animal tested products, it doesn't stop them being a vegan if the do.
As yru1too points out, when it comes to animal rights we could go on and on forever, so a line has to be drawn somewhere in order for people to still function in society. That is a personal choice. Everyone loves to find a reason to call a vegetarian or vegan a hypocrite, as if you can't claim to be doing any good unless you go all the way and live a 100% perfect life.
As for Jen and Siouxz r's comments... that's ridiculous. I don't smoke, but I can do what I want to my body, it's MINE. I make my own decisions for myself. It has f**k all to do with the way I'd treat another person, or an animal. There's a lot of bad things I do to myself, like binge drinking or sunbathing on holiday, but I'm not about to condone pouring vodka down a cow's throat or leaving a pig in out in the baking hot Florida sun...
2006-11-07 03:19:28
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answered by - 5
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Its all a matter of choice... not being allowed or not allowed. It depends on why one is truly a vegan (for some they are allergic to meat, others meat is just repulsive) If the reason for being a vegan is due to not harming animals than I would hope they don't smoke, I also would hope they use all natural non animal tested product, don't drive cars (oil spills hurt animals you know), don't ride bikes (oil the gears and gosh what is the seat made of what kind of fibers that aren't visible) the list goes on... its hard to be perfect and do the right thing all the time, many people mess up with out even realizing it, oh my what about taking meds...
I only bring up this point because it was pointed out to me at a protest I was at that the "cause" is much greater than we realize.
Have a GREAT day!
2006-11-07 02:42:30
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answered by Anonymous
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Veganism is not about what one is or isn't allowed to do. Veganism is a personal choice. A vegan doesn't eat any animal product. Some vegan's won't even wear leather.
It's amazing, because I have seen both vegans and health-food freaks smoke, which is just odd as yes, they have been tested on animals and about the worst thing that you can do to yourself.
2006-11-07 02:43:50
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answered by voodoobluesman 5
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Of course vegans can smoke. There are many kinds of organic tobaccos (ie. American Spirits) and Native tobaccos that haven't been tested on animals. Belmont Milds are vegan cigarettes. The main thing that makes a cigarette not vegan is that the paper uses animal glue. Many vegans will roll their own cigarettes so they can choose an animal free glue. Rizlas, Vogue and most hemp papers use vegan glues. Vegans can definitely smoke tobacco and I've met many that enjoy smoking other things too.
2006-11-07 02:58:25
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answered by AJ F 3
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I wasn't aware that there was a vegan regulatory body that tells vegans what they are and are not allowed to do. Is it some sort of conspiracy that I've been left out of?
As far as I know, the restrictions vegetarians and vegans put on themselves are personal, and it is up to the individual what he/she does/consumes, in what quantities and for what reasons.
Of course, if someone is a vegan for health reasons, it wouldn't make much sense to smoke, would it? But generally it's up to the individual.
2006-11-07 02:42:33
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answered by Anonymous
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I think it depends, some vegans only follow the vegan diet.
And then there are vegans who know more about animal testings and who boycott against everything.
2006-11-07 02:45:11
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answered by Cherry 2
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some ppl are just dietary vegans meaning they dont eat any animal products but do use cosmetics&wear clothes with animal products such as leather,smoking may have been tested on animals but doesnt contain animal ingredients
2006-11-07 06:49:50
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answered by NightOwl 5
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if you are a vegan, you cannot drive a car, read a magazine (the glossy substance on a magazine is derived from animals) or take pictures... because all the above involve animal testing and products... you are also not allowed to watch tv, movies, or use electricity, because all these things involve animal testing and products....
if you dont want to get that complicated and just want to concentrate on what food you can eat, well, then you will have a vitamin B-12 definciency, because B-12 is found only in animal products... it is found in certain types of seaweed, but this is not easily absorbed into the body... you cannot recieve vitamin B-12 shots, because these were also tested on amimals...
thank you... please pull ahead to the first window...
2006-11-07 02:47:49
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answered by bigschwinger 2
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good question ..cant wait to see the answers..maybe vegans dont smoke.
2006-11-07 02:37:11
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answered by grumpcookie 6
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