mormons please tell me about this so i dont only follow what i just learned...?

Question

i recieved this link earlier today and so i watched the video. it is from an ex-mormon. now if i just came right out and asked abotu it allt he answers would be y dont u ask a mormon... so here i am, watch this video and explain it to me, is it true?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbDINhBiWbs
i mean, i kinda already did ask a mormon if the ex mormon told me about it. the first video before this explains that he was in the church for many years and was a high ranked member of the church so i think he is a credable source, so mormons, is any of this correct?

if you looked at this link late last night it did not work due to work on the site, check it again in the morning and it will work. and once again i am asking mormons to watch this to get another side of the story before i ask detailed questions about it

for alls information, this is the first i have heard specifics of this. i have heard that there are some rituals, but i had no clue of what. i am NOT saying that i believe all this, i just want information on it all together

Answer 1

After watching less than the first minute of the video, not only did I want to vomit, but I can also tell you that Ed Decker is an outright liar. One of the most apalling lies he says almost immediately is that Lucifer is one of the main teachers in the temple or something ridiculous like that. I have been to the Temple and attest to the fact that this is extremely far from the truth and is utterly perposterous. Ed Decker is a career anti-mormon critic. He makes money by writing trash about the LDS church. So, no, I don't think that he could really be considered a reliable source.

Why do you pretend that you are remotely interested in any real answer? Your questions have shown that you have only the malicious intent to promulgate anti-mormon sentiment on this forum. You claim to be a Christian yet here you continually bearing false witness against others. Here you are spreading hatred and distrust of the LDS church. Perhaps you should spend more time studying God's word and trying to live it than attacking the beliefs of others!

Also, if you would have spent even a fraction of the time you waste looking at anti-mormon websites to research your credible witness, you could have found out a little more about even what other anti-mormon critics say, as well as the real reason Ed Decker left the LDS church.

The following was taken from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Decker

Criticism

Decker is not without controversy amongst fellow Evangelical Christian Apologists. For example, his former associate Dick Baer said that, "Ed has a penchant to sensationalize, embellish on facts and center on bizarre issues to try to shock people."(February 25th 1993, Salt Lake Tribune).

Jerald and Sandra Tanner and Bob Passantino have said that his writings grossly misrepresent Mormonism, and thereby dilute his message and offend Mormons without attracting them to evangelical Christianity. The Tanners, themselves prominent critics of the LDS Church, have noted what they contend are innacuracies and errors in some of Decker's works.[1]

Critics also point to Decker's first wife's allegations that he was excommunicated for adultery and wife abuse - contrary to his claim that it was due to changes in Decker's religious beliefs. This allegation has been denied by Decker[2] but appears in court documents that he did not dispute at the time of his divorce. Decker has since remarried.

The actual Decker excommunication record is on file at Utah State University Special Collections Library [#210]

Answer 2

Ed Decker is a credible source. The others you see in the Temple rites are the Sacketts. They were temple Mormon workers and helped temple mormons with the rituals that are talked about in this video.
After this video was originally made, the Mormon church changed the program somewhat, but what you see here is still true. If you want to read further about the changes in the temple rituals after this video came out, look at sites like mrm.org where people like Bill McKeever do an analysis of it.

Answer 3

I could only stomach to watch about 4 minutes of this...This man may have been a member at one point. He is taking things that are sacred and turning them into something bad. He is taking one thing and making it another. Like the aprons...they have nothing to do with satan, at all. There is also no symbols on satans robe as he said. Like I said, he is mixing things together. The aprons are to cover nakedness like Adam and Eve did in the Garden, they are just a symbol. Everything in the temple is symbolic and MUCH of it is talked about in the bible, but you wouldn't recognize it unless you have been to the temple.
He shows certain "rituals" or what ever you like to call them...I have never seen the "blood oath" thing but I have heard it was in the early days of the church they talked about Joseph's martyrdom. That is not done now and has not been for quite a while. There have been changes in temple ordinances since the first days of the church. Even in the past 5 years there have been some changes. NO DOCTRINE HAS EVER CHANGED.
I would swear on my life that nothing in the temple is at all any way ungoldy or unholy. Everything is done with love of Christ and Heavenly Father. Everything is a saving ordinance. There are covenants and promises, signs and tokens, all which enable a person to walk back into the presence of God. They are not scary or weird or uncomfortable. It is very peaceful and you can truly feel the love of the Lord there.
I will say this: Any person who attends the temple unworthy or unprepared spiritually should not have gone in the first place. The covenants you make are not to be taken lightly, God will not be mocked. And I firmly believe those who mock the temple ordinances and "uncover" all these "hidden truths" which are nothing more than falsehoods and misconceptions, will be held accountable to God for it. I would not want to be in their shoes!

Answer 4

Right now the only way to be 100% sure is a paternity test after the baby is born. As you said with your cycle being off it is hard to tell your exact conception date. Since you got an ultrasound so early the margin of error of your due date is 3 days plus or minus. With the home pregnancy test the answer that shows up within the first 3-5 minutes are accurate. Everything after that is unreliable. Does your fiance know what happened between you and that other gentleman while yous were broken up? If he does then he probably already knows and accepts the fact that there is a slight possibility that it isn't his. But it is a slight possibility, it is likely that the child is your fiance's.

Answer 5

mormons still get a bad rap because of their early history as pirates along the east coast. the mormon pirates were ruthless in those days and would waylay any ship they could find, steal the cargo, make the men walk the plank and take the women as 2nd and 3'rd and sometimes even 4th wives.

the continental congress put a stop to that and authorized several warships to capture and rid the world of the evil mormon pirates. after a long chase the mormon pirates were finally defeated and captured.

they were then exiled to utah---that being as far away from the sea as possible back then. they were left alone out there to marry many wives and do whatever it is they do---except for pirating.

Answer 6

My advice is to always weigh both sides of an argument, give equal time to finding out what is behind any information put on the net. From a current mormons perspective you might ask, are they trying to convert me? Are they trying to make their church look good, or are they just trying to clear misconceptions?

From an ex-mormon's point of view, are they objective? Do they hold a grudge against the church and is this their attempt at trying to get back at them?

From what I have seen, most ex-mormons can't seem to sit on the fence and are very opposed to the church they used to belong too.

Answer 7

Hi! Listen I am not a Mormon but I have known a few and they tried to get me into their circle. Being a person who at the time was searching for a spiritual home, I read and researched everything. I did my homework on it and concluded that the book of Mormon is inaccurate and a false prophesy. It is a cult because they teach people to follow church leaders and people who have 'rank' among them. Many claim to have contact with God and so this gives them authority to be treated as God which is totally wrong in my book. My best advice is to keep reading and if you read the book of Mormon in its entirety then you will find the answer yourself. But listen to the voice of reason in your soul and don't let anyone influence you otherwise. After all, you will be responsible for your actions and worldly deeds on Judgement Day.

Answer 8

Decker reminds me of Andres Serrano, the "artist" who put a cross in urine. What ever he has to say has me reacting the same way. I don't want to be the the vicinity of either on Judgement Day.

Answer 9

I am not Mormon, but this may be something you would like to see also.


http://www.exmormon.org/


God bless.

Answer 10

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