Once Saved Always Saved is an unbiblical doctrine and the following verses are proof. Do you agree with these verses?
"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven." (Matt. 7:21)
"He who endures to the end will be saved" (Matt. 24:13)
"All this I do for the sake of the gospel, so that I too may have a share in it. Do you not know that the runners in the stadium all run in the race, but only one wins the prize? Run so as to win. Every athlete exercises discipline in every way. They do it to win a perishable crown, but we an imperishable one. Thus I do not run aimlessly; I do not fight as if I were shadowboxing. No, I drive my body and train it, for fear that, after having preached to others, I myself should be disqualified." (1 Cor. 9:23-27)
2006-10-25
16:56:44
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"See, then, the kindness and severity of God: severity toward those who fell, but God's kindness to you, provided you remain in his kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off." (Romans 11:22)
"If we sin deliberately after receiving knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains sacrifice for sins but a fearful prospect of judgment and a flaming fire that is going to consume the adversaries." (Hebrews 10:26-27)
"So then, my beloved, obedient as you have always been, not only when I am present but all the more now when I am absent, work out your salvation with fear and trembling." (Phil. 2:12)
"For if they, having escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of (our) Lord and savior Jesus Christ, again become entangled and overcome by them, their last condition is worse than their first. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment handed down to them." (2 Peter 2:20-21)
2006-10-25
16:57:24 ·
update #1
If anyone feels that I am quoting these verses unfairly they are free to look them up themselves.
2006-10-25
17:05:31 ·
update #2
Yes, I agree with you. I think there are a lot of people counting on this false doctrine who are going to be very shocked.
2006-10-25 17:00:18
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answered by Anonymous
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Matthew 7:21 is speaking to the those who use the Lords name for their own gain, not true believers.
Matthew 24:13 simply points out that those who are truly the Lords, will in fact endure to the end. As we know, there are many who start the walk but when the wind blows against them, they quit. Many pretend to continue but they don't.
Pauls use of the word "disqualifed" in no way means that he thinks he can lose his salvation, he wrote far more on eternal security, so it would a contradiction to think he is saying he could lose his salvation. He is speaking of being fruitful to the end. Not stopping the work before the finish line.
You can't lose your salvation if it is real. He who has the Son has life, he who has not the Son of God has not life but the wrath of God abides on him. Paul said that he was convinced that neither depth nor height nor.......and so on and so on can separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus.
NO ONE CAN BE PLUCKED OUT OF THE HAND OF GOD!
2006-10-25 17:12:11
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answered by ? 3
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Yes I agree, and of course I agree with what the Bible, says, and there are more verses that prove that theory false.if that theory were right then it would not matter what one does, their worship would still be accepted by God,Those verses you brought out are very good verses that really are clearyet, as you, know, by those verses,and they are just some of the verses, that prove it false! and the belief that once you are saved you are always saved, that again would mean, that no matter what one does they are accepted by God, But, is that the case?Not at all, and that as you pointed out, is not, a teachinmg from the Bible.
Yet there is someone who wants people to believe that lie and that lie originate with him!
and it actually started off in the Garden of eden when he tricked Eve to rebell against God, although God said that if they ate the fruit of one tree they would die, Yet Satan said in direct contrast to God, that, he said:"You positively will not die(Genesis 3:4 toward the end of the verse)but tody we see that we all do die because we inherited the sin from our first parents Adam and Eve who brought sin into the world, so this once saved theory originates with Satan also he is luring people into a false sense of security, and wants them to fall into his trap so that he can take as many as he can with him off into destruction,and now he is working extra hard, because he knows he has only a short period of time left to prove his wicked accusations,toward God ,as well as to humans, Satan is our worst enemy, yet many people listen to his destructive lies as teachings that originate with Satan(1John5:19)
2006-10-25 17:37:49
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answered by I speak Truth 6
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I think you do not fully understand the glory of God. That is what I think.
As far as the verses you cited, they say nothing about someone losing salvation. Do you just call everything you don't understand unbiblical? Pray to God and maybe He will reveal His truth to you as He obviously hasn't on this particular topic.
2006-10-25 17:04:15
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answered by Anonymous
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No, I don't agree.
The verses you cite bring up a different question:
Backsliding is one thing.
Perhaps we should inquire whether the person actually ever "front slid" to salvation in Jesus Christ.
Actually LIVING for Christ is the key. Then OSAS is unquestioned.
2006-10-25 17:05:13
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answered by Bob L 7
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First, you can't just take verses out of context. Second, the devil can quote the Bible better than you or me, I'm not impressed, get outta town!
2006-10-25 17:00:58
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answered by Anonymous
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this is true. its an if thing until the time of judgement. if you obey me, you will be saved. like a parent who says on saturday (judgement day) i will buy you a video game if you behave. if ou dont behave throughout all of the week, the parent will not buy it for you. likewise, god wants us to obey him forever and for love, not just because we get something back.
2006-10-25 16:59:30
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answered by kclr16 3
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I know we are not once saved always saved,it takes an everyday commitment to serve!And I get to be a part of that!
2006-10-25 17:03:14
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answered by Erica B 3
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in the middle on this view
2006-10-25 17:00:13
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answered by coolpuffin 2
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does the phrase "singing to the choir" mean anything to you?
2006-10-25 16:59:59
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answered by Anonymous
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