to atheists?

Question

Why is it that when you ask for proof, and we give it to you that you ask the same question again and say not to use that proof, and so on.
What exactly are you looking for if it really isn't proof you want.
Jesus said "no sign will be given to this adulterous generation."
"Blessed are those who believe and have not seen."

Why do you not believe the proof you asked for, and why do you keep asking?

I never said anything written was proof, again atheist's seem like they are avoiding the question.

And I never asked for proof of evolution, again with the avoidance issue, so far no one has answered the question, why?

The bible also doesn't contradict itself anywhere, that's a copout for unbelievers to just say things. Show me on contradiction.

And again, as with my first question, people attacking the question. So far in my experience that's what atheists do.

still no answer.

Some of you ask me for proof but you avoid the initial question.

Answer 1

I don't think you quite understand the definition of "proof". You can't just write something on a piece of paper and expect it to prove something. If I wrote "God does not exist" on a slip of paper and handed it to you, would you accept that as proof?

Edit: We ARE answering your question, you just don't like the answer. You think you're providing "proof" but you are NOT. WIth that in mind, your question becomes moot. It's like you're asking "Why does 1+1 equal 3?". The only correct answer to that question is "It doesn't".

Answer 2

I have never asked for proof of god's existence. I have however reserved the rights of belief in such a being until there is some tangible evidence of said being. All that is ever offered is personal experience which is not evidence. If god is supposed to act upon the physical world there has to be some tangible evidence of such acts... so far none have been discovered. However there have been studies that have shown how religious experiences can be accounted for as tricks of the mind. People are easily fooled, as a magician i know how a simple trick can convince some people that i have supernatural powers. The implications of god, especially the ones offered by today's religions, are too big to not hold a scientific (skeptical) stance on the issue.

Answer 3

A bible verse is not proof. "Faith" is not proof. "Looking around" is not proof. I can switch the question around just as easily.

There's evidence of evolution.
What's up with other religions?
Why is my life so great when I'm an Atheist?


You're question is quite amusing actually.

EDIT: You say that we're avoiding your question. I perceived that your question was why don't we accept the "proof" Christians give, which I see being answered over and over again. Are you really looking for an answer, or are you just ranting?

I get it, by saying that we're avoiding the question, even though we're clearly not, you feel that you question holds water and at least a tiny ounce of intelligence. Good for you, make yourself feel better.

Does avoidance mean "Not what I want to hear."?

Answer 4

A large percentage of the proof Christians tend to give is scripture. Many atheists reject scripture as accurate proof, mainly because of the countless number of contradictions in the Bible.

It's a bit of a catch-22 situation.

I believe that real Faith comes from experience, but that is personal and only applies to the person who felt it. Phsycology can explain a lot of religious experiences, and while they may seem undoubtedly real to those who go through them, they are insufficient in terms of actual evidence.

I know it's frustrating when you meet a person who is so hard-set on not believing that no matter what you say they will always want to counter it with something else, or just deny it as evidence all together. In the end you should just walk away, in my experience, trying to change someones beliefs, either way, is a very hard thing to do and really not worth the time...Unless that person is doing harm to another with their beliefs.
And as annoying as Atheists can be, they are generally pretty harmless, though undoubtedly stubborn. Of course, not all of them are like that...But the ones that I know like to believe they are right, no matter what you say...But then again, most of the christians that I know are the same.

Answer 5

Well, what proof do you have. If it is something in the bible that you use as proof, then that presupposes that teh bible is truth. Which causes a circular argument. I need proof that is wholly independent than anything found in the bible.

Even in your "Blessed are those who believe and have not seen." quote it talks about believing without proof. Which is the problem most atheists have.

For example, if I write a book that talks about me being the best basketball player and then in the book I also say that it is the truth and no proof is needed. You would doubt me until you saw me play, wouldn't you?

Answer 6

Because it isn't proof. It's words from a book written 2000 years ago by mankind (not god) during a time when we believed in dragons that the church has "decided" which lessons to included and which ones not to.

That's not proof. That's either a joke or massive lie that people are stupid enough to believe.

Give us real proof. Not words from some book.

Edit: You're getting your answer. You just don't like the answer you're getting so you're trying to twist it into something else. I feel bad for you. You can't accept the simple truth.

Answer 7

Something better than
"Jesus said "no sign will be given to this adulterous generation."" because that is a cop out.

If I drop a stone, I know it will fall to the ground. That is observation. Science can prove and measure gravity. That is science. I do not have to "Have faith" in gravity.

Scientific, replicable, testable evidence. Is it so much to ask?

Incidentally, just to head you off at the pass, saying "The bible is the word of God, so the bible is proof God exists" won't cut any ice either.

Why do "you" keep asking for proof of evolution, when I know that proof has been provided many times. Scientific, replicable, testable evidence.

Answer 8

A Bible quote is not proof. Two Bible quotes that do not contradict one another are not proof, either. You wouldn't accept a quote from the Qur'an as a valid proof, would you? Yet many in this world consider the Qur'an an expression of perfect truth.

Try rephrasing your question with some context so we can understand exactly what you're asking.

Answer 9

The day a "believer' presents a "proof" that will stand up in a courtroom, you will be entitled to the opinion above. Until then, there are no such things as gods.

Answer 10

"Blessed are those who believe and have not seen." - That's exactly what you would say if you had started a religious cult and wanted people to believe in the god you'd invented.

A proof would have to be something that is logically satisfactory, not something that only seems to have validity if you're already religious.