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I think you meant John 20: 21-23
Jesus) said to them again, "Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you." And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, "Receive the holy Spirit. Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained."

It is VERY clear that Jesus is giving his disciples the Holy Spirit and by the power of the Holy Spirit, Jesus is giving the disciples the authority to forgive AND RETAIN sins.

It would make very little sense for Jesus to give this authority ONLY to the disciples in that room. If Jesus did not want this authority to continue after these disciples were dead, why give it to them to begin with?

2006-10-25 09:03:20 · answer #1 · answered by Sldgman 7 · 0 1

You have twisted scripture to the understanding of the church. Are you saying because the church has forgiven a sin, not knowing a man's heart, that heaven must abide by the decision of the church? You do err in placing the authority of the church above that of God. It is the sinners responsibility and indeed his right to go directly to the throne of grace to receive forgiveness of sins. Once there is evidence that this has happen, the church is to remit his sin, not holding it against him. It is God who forgives sin. The church obides by the decision of God, not the other way around.

A similar passage is in Matthew 16:19 where it is declared that whatever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven. Literally this says what ever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven. That means that heaven does the binding, because only God knows the heart. The church abides by the decision of heaven. There is no authority given to the church beyond abiding by the decision already made in heaven. The keys to the kingdom are the words that proceed out of the mouth of God, His Holy Bible. The disciples received these words and were to pass the keys on to others. The history of the Catholic church during the dark ages tell what happens when sinful humans, who see only the outside, try to decide who is bound and who is loosed. Even you must admit that numerous mistakes were made and many of the saints of the Most High were slain by the church. Even John Paul ll admitted as much. God does not leave eternal decisions in the hands of erring, sinful, finite humans. The legacy of the abuses of the Roman Catholic church should tell you that.

Mark 2:7 correctly states that only God can forgive sins. Anything else is blasphemy and a usurpation of the power of God

2006-10-25 16:21:02 · answer #2 · answered by 19jay63 4 · 0 0

I think you meant John 20:23, and that was a blessing given specifically to the Apostles. This was not for every believer or priests would be irrelevant as any Christian could forgive their sin.

2006-10-25 15:52:51 · answer #3 · answered by berg 2 · 0 0

John 20:22 says
And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and said to them, "receive the Holy Spirit,"
What does this have to do with a priest forgiving sins?

2006-10-25 16:00:27 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

John 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:

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what dose this have to do with priest supoadly being able to forgive sins...which they can not.

nothing in that chapter says that.

2006-10-25 15:54:01 · answer #5 · answered by IdahoMike 5 · 0 0

The Bible says NO!

While this verse alone might seem to be saying that the apostles could forgive sins, we cannot ignore the testimony of the rest of the Bible. We need to be like the noble-minded Beroeans in “carefully examining the Scriptures” to see what is so.—Acts 17:11.

When King David sinned, from whom did he seek forgiveness? In his time there were God-ordained Jewish priests serving at the tabernacle. Still, David wrote: “I said: ‘I shall make confession over my transgressions to Jehovah.’ And you yourself [God] pardoned the error of my sins.” (Ps. 32:5) Did Jesus change this when he came? No, for he taught us to pray: “Our Father in the heavens, . . . forgive us our debts [or trespasses].” (Matt. 6:9, 12) And that is how Jesus’ disciples understood the matter. They knew that it was not some man, but God, who could ‘forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.’—1 John 1:9.

How, then, were the disciples to whom Jesus addressed the words at John 20:23 involved in the matter of forgiveness? A comment Christ made earlier sheds light on this. In Matthew 18:15-17 Jesus explained what one should do if his spiritual brother sinned against him. The final step was for the matter to be heard by the spiritually older men of the congregation. (Jas. 5:14, 15) If the sinner refused to repent of his serious sin, he was to be expelled from the congregation. Was it a matter of some men deciding to forgive or retain his sins? No, they would simply be acting in accord with what they could conclude would already have been done in heaven. How would they know this? By what God has revealed in his Word on such matters.—2 Tim. 3:16, 17.

This is evident from Jesus’ next words: “Truly I say to you, whatever you shall bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.” (Matt. 18:18, New American Standard Bible; see also NW, Ro, The New Testament by C. B. Williams) Though some Bible versions render this verse in a way that suggests that the heavenly action occurs after the earthly decision, noted Bible translator Robert Young said that it literally should be: “shall be that which has been bound (already).”

2006-10-25 15:58:57 · answer #6 · answered by papavero 6 · 2 0

why is it such a deal to have a priest forgive you. if you are not sinning against the priest then what business is it of theres? do you ask your friends parents for forgivness when you disobey your own? being man and sinners by nature themseleves, can you clean a dirty counter with a dirty napkin? whats the point in asking another sinner to forgive your sins?

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22And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:

what does this hav eto do with priests forgiving sins?

2006-10-25 15:50:35 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

you can confess your sins to someone which is good in James it says Confess your sins to one another and he will be faithful to forgive.

by confessing your sins to a priest doesnt mean that he is the one to forgive you neither by praying 3 of our lords prayer and 2 hail marys would we be able to take it back. A killer does not revive his victim by praying 6 of our lords prayer and 3 hailmarys right.

confess your sins and he (GOD) will be faithfull to forgive

2006-10-25 16:03:39 · answer #8 · answered by The-chicken 3 · 1 0

Only God can forgive sin.

2006-10-25 15:49:02 · answer #9 · answered by beek 7 · 1 0

Read it.
He simply told them receive the holy spirit.And this cleanses them HOW?

2006-10-25 15:50:33 · answer #10 · answered by Myaloo 5 · 0 0

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