Exodus 35:2 [KJV] Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein SHALL BE PUT TO DEATH. [NIV] For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it MUST BE PUT TO DEATH.
I know.I know.People are going to say because Jesus died for our sins and so forth.But those are usually the same people who quote Leviticus and there are those who quote Corinthians and yet have no idea of what the original Hebrew and Greek texts said.they only read updated books that say what they want them to say and only focus on what they need for their contempt of others yet have no knowledge beyond a few verses.
Check this link out:
http://www.worldpolicy.org/globalrights/sexorient/bible-gay.html
So, I wonder, should we take everything the Bible says literally?And which version should be used?The original or a bias edited one?
2006-09-28
21:47:45
·
16 answers
·
asked by
BuckFush
5
in
Society & Culture
➔ Religion & Spirituality
I can read Hebrew and Greek is easily translated for me.
2006-09-28
21:59:50 ·
update #1
Look, people quote Leviticus all the time!So if they want to quote Old Testament laws then they had better quote them all and follow them accordingly.Otherwise they should never quote them against anyone for any reason ever.And they should learn original texts in Hebrew and Greek before ever quoting them against anyone.That is my point and the reason for my question.
2006-09-28
22:02:37 ·
update #2
I found this website that has a more accurate translation of Corinthians that often is used by people who seek to condemn and judge homosexuals.There is no word "homosexual" in it and that is true for the original texts.The closest word might be effeminate but there is no correlation that directly means a homosexual is or must be or is defined as an effeminate.
"9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind"
http://www.christiananswers.net/bible/1cor6.html
2006-09-28
22:59:16 ·
update #3
God wanted us to evolve. And some of us did...
2006-09-28 21:50:57
·
answer #1
·
answered by Jon H 5
·
2⤊
0⤋
*People are going to say because Jesus died for our sins and so forth* You've got the idea theologically. These laws are now replaced by the law written on our hearts. What this really means is that the Old Covenant (which Leviticus details in part) was about laws to keep a group from sinning, but that with the New Covenant of Jesus Christ, we are given a new law to govern each heart individually - "Love thy neighbour..."
It's true, people do quote Leviticus sometimes - especially ppl trying to make a self-righteous point. But what they're saying isn't scriptural, it's a human being trying to be self-righteous - and sinning in the process, I might add, by harming others' self-worth.
*But those are usually the same people who quote Leviticus and there are those who quote Corinthians and yet have no idea of what the original Hebrew and Greek texts said.* This is certainly true sometimes.
If you are worried about not understanding what the Bible actually means, get a copy of the NKJV (best word-for-word translation) and a commentary or two, and start sifting through the Gospels. (This is the best place to start for a Gentile reader - Jews, I think, should use a different reading program). Do *not* rely on websites to tell you the truth - read the book yourself, delve into the history of the translations, get an ancient language dictionary and see for yourself - that's what I did, and it changed my views drastically.
*So, I wonder, should we take everything the Bible says literally?* If course not, that would make you an unthinking moron. I used to think that Xtians didn't think - that thinking was sinful to them or something.
A true Xtian is a seeker above all things. Jesus told us: "Seek, and ye shall find." He wants us to ask questions and to read Scripture critically. And a true Xtian will resist judging other people, especially not by throwing out-of-context Scripture at them. (Side note: theologians agree that the Bible contains all kinds of writing, including allegorical and historical, for example - which you can differentiate between once you've understood the literary tradition behind Scripture).
It sounds like you have an ax to grind, but I suppose that's understandable. The problem with the church is *people*, as my pastor would say - people can twist what is pure and make it seem ugly to others.
If you are worried, ask God to guide you. He will not let you stumble. You just have to put your pride aside for long enough for him to lead you to the truth. (That was the hard part for me.)
2006-09-29 05:26:14
·
answer #2
·
answered by candypants 2
·
1⤊
0⤋
I do not believe the whole Bible should be read literally. For instance Jesus did not really mean that you should cut of your ear when it makes you stumble. Jesus knew that it isn't our ear that makes us stumble but the way we think. I believe that the message of the Bible is infallable. There are differences between different translations and going back to the original greek and hebrew is very important. In most of my theological study however I have not found the message to change - unless you have a very bad translation (and there are bad translations). There are sticky points especially when it comes to the gay issue which you are referring to. In these cases Christians should vigorously study the scripture and the historical context attached to it. Then we have to decide with what our conciounces is comfortable with and continue to pray for God's love to transform us. When it comes to the Sabbath issue that you are referring to. Who do you want to put to death? The message is that we should take time out to relax and put our feet up. I don't know anyone who doesn't do that at least once a week. For some people it's over the weekend and for other's it's during the week. God nowhere says it has to be a Sunday or a Saturday or whatever day. He just says that you should work but you should also rest. Also what is your definition of work? Some people find great relaxation in 'working' in the garden - that is the way they put their feet up. Who are we to judge? Putting someone to death is a big issue, I think we should be careful with that type of talk - remember the dark ages and the Roman Catholic Church? Let's not make that mistake again shall we.
2006-09-29 05:10:35
·
answer #3
·
answered by SweetyPie 2
·
0⤊
0⤋
You can use whatever means you want to justify sin, it is still sin. The Bible has not been "edited" as you claim. Many scholars have worked on various translations, and have done their best to translate the Word in a way that conveys every meaning. The translators also usually make footnotes where there might be any doubt. Many things have changed from the Old Testament to the New Testament, in some cases even what is considered sin has changed. However, in many cases it has not. The New Testament condemns sexual immorality. What, specifically is sexual immorality? It is those things that are condemned as sexually immoral in the Old Testament. That is why a Christian can go to Leviticus to show that homosexuality is wrong, but when the New Testament says that Jesus is Lord over the Sabbath, we do not go to the passage you mentioned in Exodus. We also never go to the Old Testament to determine what the PUNISHMENT for sin should be, because, as you pointed out, Jesus died for our sins. He took our punishment.
2006-09-29 05:07:24
·
answer #4
·
answered by Serving Jesus 6
·
0⤊
1⤋
That's the old testament, and the word of God. See, somewhere along the line, selective belief became; OK! Just like how God enjoys the sweet scent of animal holocausts from Noah (Genesis 8:20-21).
Whatever. When the Bible was canonized man edited a LOT of God's word, I doubt he didn't much like that. But they did it anyway! Now the followers just get to "pick and choose" what they want to believe. Gee, doesn't that kinda sound like FICTION? ...
None of it makes any sense to me. So frivolous to defend the creation story in the beginning, but somehow everything else is just some kind of metaphor or allegory... It all makes my poor brain writhe in agony, because I don't understand a single bit of what I just explained.
2006-09-29 05:33:40
·
answer #5
·
answered by raven7night 4
·
0⤊
0⤋
The original was for the Jews. The 10 commandments was to show people that no one person can do all of these things and thus make all bound to death. The new covenant was to show that one had did all these things and by clinging to his Word would cleanse you of all unrighteousness.
From the beginning to the end his Word will not change no matter how much the devil's influence will make you believe it.
The "orignal" or "biased one". There are many biased ones.
Pray to God directly and ask him to lead you to the true version.
I can tell you the real one, but DO NOT believe me. Ask him yourself. Others will not say this. If you really want to know, he will lead you to know if you ask.
2006-09-29 05:21:41
·
answer #6
·
answered by digdugs 3
·
0⤊
0⤋
This is why I do not put people to death based on the OT scriptures...
1-2 Jesus went across to Mount Olives, but he was soon back in the Temple again. Swarms of people came to him. He sat down and taught them. 3-6The religion scholars and Pharisees led in a woman who had been caught in an act of adultery. They stood her in plain sight of everyone and said, "Teacher, this woman was caught red-handed in the act of adultery. Moses, in the Law, gives orders to stone such persons. What do you say?" They were trying to trap him into saying something incriminating so they could bring charges against him.
6-8Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger in the dirt. They kept at him, badgering him. He straightened up and said, "The sinless one among you, go first: Throw the stone." Bending down again, he wrote some more in the dirt.
9-10Hearing that, they walked away, one after another, beginning with the oldest. The woman was left alone. Jesus stood up and spoke to her. "Woman, where are they? Does no one condemn you?"
11"No one, Master."
"Neither do I," said Jesus. "Go on your way. From now on, don't sin."
John 8:1-11 [The Message]
Jesus is the one that I look to as a moral compass and he let this very guilty woman go when she should have been stoned by the crowd. Believe me, if I was this woman I'd find out more about Jesus and get myself right with God... and that shows us that love is stronger than any punative system.
2006-09-29 05:02:12
·
answer #7
·
answered by Tish-a-licious 3
·
0⤊
0⤋
There are spiritual and social laws in the Holy Scriptures.
Spiritual laws are immutable while social laws are modified by the successive Messengers of God.
The above law was established by Moses and modified by Christ.
5:9 And immediately the man was made whole, and took up his bed, and walked: and on the same day was the sabbath.
5:10 The Jews therefore said unto him that was cured, It is the sabbath day: it is not lawful for thee to carry thy bed.
5:11 He answered them, He that made me whole, the same said unto me, Take up thy bed, and walk.
John 5:9-11.
2006-09-29 05:12:51
·
answer #8
·
answered by Anonymous
·
0⤊
0⤋
Have you ever herd of the (New Testament): Those laws were written for the Jew's: Gentiles are not under the same law,we are under Grace by the birth,death,and Resurrection of Jesus Christ:
Remember when they were going to stone Mary Magdalen,Jesus said to the people (he who is WITHOUT SIN,cast the first stone): All left,because none are without sin.
2006-09-29 05:22:17
·
answer #9
·
answered by starfish50 5
·
0⤊
0⤋
For Jews...the deaths that are commanded in the bible usually took place only in a time where there was the holy temple and the supreme judges (Sanhedrin) under strict rules. So since there is no temple there is no death penalty!
2006-09-29 04:56:07
·
answer #10
·
answered by NY gal 4
·
0⤊
0⤋
Thats the old testament hun. It only serves now for an understanding on the spiritual side of Gods laws.
You need to seek Jesus then it will become more clear.
2006-09-29 04:49:46
·
answer #11
·
answered by Anonymous
·
2⤊
0⤋