Where in the Bible does it say 7 yrs of tribulation?
No where
What does the Bible say about the Secret Rapture?
“No single verse specifically states Christ will come before the Tribulation.”
Tim LaHaye (author of “Left Behind”)
Friends the belief in the SECRET RAPTURE is a dangerous doctrine because it is not Biblical. Please read with an open mind. Nowhere in the scriptures does it make any reference of a “SECRET RAPTURE”. Many people reference I Thessalonians 4 but they don’t actually read the whole chapter read verse 16.
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a SHOUT, with the VOICE of the archangel, and with the TRUMP of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last Trump: for the TRUMPET shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. I Corinthians 15:52
These are some of the nosiest verses in the Bible how can it be a secret?
Where is the scripture that says “7 years of Tribulation”?
It cannot be found, because it is not in the Bible
Did God save Noah from the flood or through it
Did God save Israel from the plagues or through them
Did God save Daniel from the lions den or through it
But doesn’t the Bible say that the day of the Lord comes as a thief in the night?
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which THE HEAVENS SHALL PASS AWAY with a GREAT NOISE, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be BURNED up. II Peter 3:10
He comes as thief because it catches people by surprise.
What does the Bible say will happen when Jesus comes back
For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Matt 24:27
Everyone will see it you can’t miss it
Our God shall come, and shall not keep silent; A fire shall devour before Him, And it shall be very tempestuous all around Him. He shall call to the heavens from above, And to the earth, that He may judge His people: “Gather My saints together to Me, Those who have made a covenant with Me by sacrifice.”
Psalms 50:3
I beheld the earth, and indeed it was without form, and void; And the heavens, they had no light. I beheld the mountains, and indeed they trembled, And all the hills moved back and forth. I beheld, and indeed there was no man, And all the birds of the heavens had fled. I beheld, and indeed the fruitful land was a wilderness, And all its cities were broken down At the presence of the LORD, By His fierce anger. Jeremiah 4:26
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Matthew 24:30,31
since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you, and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. II Thessalonians 1:6-8
1 angel rolled away the stone and 100 Roman soldiers collapsed in fear like dead men.
1 angel killed almost 200,000 Assyrian soldiers in one night
Jesus is coming with all his angels who will take flaming fire vengeance how can this be a secret?
But doesn’t the Bible say 1 shall be taken and 1 shall be left?
Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather. Matt 24:28
Two men will be in the field: the one will be taken and the other left.” And they answered and said to Him, “Where, Lord?”
So He said to them, “Wherever the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together.” Luke 17:36, 37
Notice how Jesus answers where the body and the vultures are gathered. The vultures devouring the flesh because those “Left Behind” will be dead.
The secret Rapture was created by a Catholic monk named Ribera. It was supposed to be used in the Counter Reformation, but no one believed it.
There is no Secret Rapture when Jesus comes he comes in glory the world does not go on for 7 years. When Jesus comes probation for sinners is over. We need to be ready now. Life does not continue on Earth after Jesus comes.
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2006-09-28 19:11:30
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answered by Conundrum 4
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I hold to what is known as a mid-tribulational view of the rapture. This means that I feel the rapture will occur at the midpoint of a seven year end times period, or in the middle of seven years of tribulation. I beleive the seven year end times period is split into three and one half years of God calling out to people to believe, then the rapture occurs, and then God judges man for three and one half years during the Great Tribulation. Then you have the second coming of Christ, the battle of Armageddon, the 1000 year reign of Christ on earth, the great white throne judgement, new heaven and new earth, etc.
In respect to the seven seals, seven trumpets, seven bowls or vials of wrath:
seals 1-4, all seven trumpets (last one is the rapture) occur during the first three and one half years
Seals 5-7 and all seven bowls of wrath occur during the great tribulation, the last three and one half years of the End Times, after the rapture.
I believe you are right to perceive the book of Revelation to be a warning, and when we begin to see the events of Revelation come true, we should consider ourselves further warned. That, I believe, is why God will bring about the event we call the rapture after some of the events in Revelation have come true, so that people will believe in Him.
All of this is my opinion, as far as when the rapture will occur in relation to the other events in the Bible and specifically the book of Revelation. These events will happen, though.
2006-09-28 17:00:32
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answered by hisnamesaves 3
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I believe the bible and because I do it means I will be here for tribulation and in the last trump as Paul had said..is when I will be caught up...it is plain in the bible if you want to see it..some don't ..they would rather believe they are escaping....
Matthew 24:29.Immediately after the tribulation of those days ...means exactly that....secondly Jesus himself says it will happen in a trumpet.31st Vs.And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
OK Paul mentions it in 2 separate books
1 Corinthians 15th chap in which Paul not only mentions a trumpet he mentions a particular trumpet...the Last one..in 1 Thessalonians 4th chap he again mentions a trumpet..and oddly enough ..which is not odd at all comes back in a second book..2 thessalonians and says...that day shall not come ..which day??.the day of the Lord..in which he comes and receives the church/his people..and pours out his wrath...
that day shall not except there be a great falling away and ..uh oh..the son of perdition be revealed...hold up you mean we will see the anti-christ...yes we will...he is the son of perdition...lastly..John the revelator makes mention of a trumpet too. as a matter of fact he makes mention of 7 trumpets..at the end of the seals in the 7th seal there are 7 trumpets opened.and it does not take a rocket scientist to figure which is the first and which is the last...so as Paul says ..in the Last trump...the 7th trumpet...read it and you will see ..with other scripture reference..that we are the kingdom of God..Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you...so lets see...Revelations 11 says vs 15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
THIS is the catching away of the body of Christ from the earth.. the bride going to meet her bride groom...keep going...remember the day of the Lord is not just God receiving the saints ..BUT..his wrath being pourn out...READ..Vs 18....And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth...That's pretty cut and dry...and yet no man knows the day or the hour..when..but know many things must take place before we get outta here...God bless
2006-09-28 17:17:11
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answered by soldier612 5
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Well, yes, those that are saved and all the children, and such will be taken. Then everyone else will have a chance to see the truth. Unfortunately, even then, many will still not believe in the one true god, not even after the rapture. So, yes, he gives everyone a chance. He does warn. He is warning now. That is why revelations was written. It is a warning to you now. Are you listening?
2006-09-28 16:55:29
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answered by designsbyniki 2
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The rapture isn't a biblical belief. I don't believe in a pre-tribulation rapture. I think we'll be here, and I believe the Bible says we will be here. Christians had better be prepared........I'm afraid there will be a lot of pre-trib Christians starving to death when they aren't able to buy anymore.
2006-09-28 17:09:08
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answered by married_so_leave_me_alone1999 4
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i dont believe in the rapture like most christians do. i know His secong coming will come after the tribulation. did the isrealites have to go through the plagues or were they saved before them? they had to go through them, and so it will be the same again.
2006-09-28 16:55:25
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answered by norm s 5
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actually the word means a revealing of something
or an event.
2013-09-15 13:34:29
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answered by Ghoststalkers PRS 1
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why did God warn Noah of the impending doom to come?
why did God have angels lead Lot and his family out of Sodom before he destroyed it?
why did God send his only son to die for us (his creation)?
A: because they were his children and he loved them enough to save them.
2006-09-28 16:54:55
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answered by Anonymous
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That makes us "Pre-Tribbers."
We believe in the pre-tribulation rapture of the church.
2006-09-28 16:53:19
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answered by Bob L 7
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