Popes statements about muslums?

Question

This angered me a lot because it seemed very hipocritcal. Im not a catholic or a muslum so I dont want people to think im biased but it seems to me the muslums are very agressive to the rest of the world, ive even seen an interview on tv from a muslum who said that everyone in America is the devil and we should all be exterminated. Yet the minute the Pope brings up a point, one I didnt see as all that offensive in the first place, muslums go a freaking rampage about how he disrespected them. It seems to me that respect is a one way street with them. Where apparently all supposed to sit back and die like devils and shutup about it. It makes me really angry. I just wanted to know some other reactions you guys have.

Answer 1

I was sorry to hear the Pope apologized. I think more leaders should have backed the man up. Even though he was only quoting someone else's views on Islam, the fact that they turned around and proved him right was pretty ironic. Now not all Muslims are radicals but how are you to know which ones are and which ones aren't? Would you want to get close enough to make sure the one coming toward you was not carrying explosives on their person or hiding a weapon to kill you with? I think not. Then again, do we just carpet bomb them and let Allah sort them out himself?

Answer 2

I don't think the Pope apologized for what he said, he said he was sorry for how some Muslims reacted to what he said.

He brought up a legitimate point in his address to the people attending his speech at the University ( a place where ideas should be exchanged in the spirit of knowledge).
This lecture was about the issue of "faith and reason".

He goes on to quote the Byzantine emperor Manuel II Paleologus as he and an educated Persian were having a discussion on the subject of Christianity and Islam after the part that was blown out of proportion by the media:
"Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats... To convince a reasonable soul, one does not need a strong arm, or weapons of any kind, or any other means of threatening a person with death...".

What the emperor said applies today. Look at what the reaction was by Islamic followers around the world: the firebombing of Christian Churches in the West Bank, a murder of an elderly nun in Somalia, protests including burning the Pope in effigy.

The Pope knew what he was talking about. The question remains now if Islam is willing to face itself under the light of reason. ...Can it exist with out spreading its faith through intimidation and violence?Willit continue to respond to criticism with inhuman and violent acts? By their reactions to a few words in a university, they confirm what has been said about their religion.

Answer 3

Muslims international are dissatisfied with the Pope's comments on Islam. they say it rather is a faith of peace so what do they do? insurrection, burn effigies of the Pope, and extra. The Pope spoke the fact and now Muslim communities are condemning the Pope and stressful an apology. How did the religion of Peace international react? Outbursts in India, Turkey, Pakistan, in simple terms to call some. is this the hot Mohammed comic strip episode? Predictably the Muslim international took offence, and regrettably extra predictably this became into accompanied by potential of the burning of effigies of the Pope and riots in many countries. . . . Pakistan’s parliament unanimously adopting a decision condemning the pope . . . Turkey – which became into between the 1st countries to react strongly . . . has now shown its genuine hues Benedict, who used the words “jihad” and “holy war,” persistently quoted Manuel’s argument that spreading the religion by violence is unreasonable, including: “Violence is incompatible with the character of God and the character of the soul.” All superb and traditionally precise.The Pope became into good.

Answer 4

The main religions are typically good.

Islam promotes peace.
Judaism promotes peace.
Christianity promotes peace.

The media and politics promote violence and hate. Man kills and uses religion as the "reason". It's a shame that many people judge religions based on the fanatics and not the religion it's self.

I believe that the popes words were archaic and hypocritical. Shouldn't he point the finger at his own religion and the men who killed in the name of christianity first and then denounce violence in other religions?

The media doesn't help at all. They want to sensationalize everything. Why don't they report on the coalitions of interfaiths or on a Jew who marries an Arab? They should report good things to promote peace instead of fostering hate and ignorance.

Answer 5

--Is Catholic--

I think you are spot on in your comments! Remember also, if you pay the tax and be a good second class citizen you CAN get left alone, according to the theology of the "radical" Islamists.

There are a host of problems at issue with what occurred after B16 gave his speech....a speech that really should be read in its entirety as it is equally harsh in a factual manner about the West as it deeply questioned Islam.

Essentially, the core of what B16 said, is a statement followed by a question. The statement is that violence done in the name of religion is against the very nature of God and is a completely irrational activity. The question, which gets to the heart of the problem, is that is violence core to the understanding of Islam?

Now if you listen to B16's "apology" he said that he was deeply sorry for the reaction of the Islamic street, which answered his question affirming that violence is core to their understanding of Islam.

Now let me show you some of the cards that are in play here. The dialogue that the Pope wants to get going is on the following: Can Islam reject violence for the sake of religion? Is it possible to separate violence out of Islam and enter into a rational discussion about the nature of God, humanity, life, peace, and all that? In other words, is Islam still Islam without the violence?

The response of many Islamic clerics, politicians, and nations is NO. Violence is commanded by Allah and it is written in the Koran that we shall kill all who do not submit. Mohammed, the very model of what it means to be man and Muslim, preached with the sword and commanded violence. The violent struggle is key to our ability to achieve paradise. The world must be conquered and put under Islamic Law.

If you are paying attention, because it is being taken as axiomatic that violence for the sake of religion is against the nature of God and is irrational, much of this dialogue is intended to focus on the following topics:
1. How infallible is the Koran if it commands violence?
2. How well do Muslims know God?
3. How much of a model is Mohammed really?

It really is up to the Muslim community to answer these questions. There is no need for Catholicism or anyone else to interject and point things out. Obviously Islam has a lot to think about and a very large existential question to answer.

Personally, I think that B16 simply asked the question that we are all to afraid to ask and demanded that Islam rise to the occasion and answer it.

Is violence fundamental to the nature of Islam?

Answer 6

u know what -- just replace the name Muhammed-pbuh from Pope's speech with the name of some one u love -- and tell me what will ur reaction be? and as far as people who spout hate for others are concerned -- they are nothing more than those who hate their God. a person isnt a muslim if he carries hate or evil thoughts for others.

Al-Qasas | 88 verses | The Story سورة القصص
Sura #28 | Makkah
77 But seek the abode of the Hereafter in that which Allah hath given thee and neglect not thy portion of the world, and BE THOU KIND even AS ALLAH HATH BEEN KIND TO THEE, and seek not corruption in the earth; lo! Allah loveth not corrupters,

have a nice day.

Answer 7

I am a Muslim, I read about popes comments and I moved on with my daily work routine since I knew he does not know my religion as much as I do, not all Muslims are violent, peace

Answer 8

people say whatever they want to say. but i am Muslim and forgive the man. i forgive him because he was respectable enough that he apologize, and because of his age and his ignorant about my religion. but most of these burning or killing the nun is taking in places low class. but no where in Islam did Muhammad ever told us to burn or go angry like this, or even kill an innocent soul. Muhammad always telling Muslims to forgive and never get angry. but people follow their own natural behavior of frustration and anger of what they see in Iraq, Lebanon and Palestine.

Answer 9

I have friends that are Muslims here in my city, but those Muslims across the Atlantic are really agressive.

Answer 10

Christianity promotes peace by loving all men and reaching out to them.

Judaism promotes peace by keeping to themselves.

Islam promotes peace by getting rid of anyone who doesn't think as they do. Once the infidels are all dead, there will be peace.