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1. thou shall not kill__________why does the pope bless the troops before they go slaughter others?
2. Why do catholics believe that simply because they are baptized when they are infants that this grants them excess into heaven, no matter what horrible sins they committ in their lives?
3.Does a person become a priest because they can be a pedaphile and get away with it if they are caught?

I'm not trying to be rude or put down this faith, I just dont understand the Hypocrisy.

2006-09-28 05:51:44 · 10 answers · asked by skipper 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

The difference between..murder and kill. lets see either way you are shedding anothers blood,and yes the Pope does bless the troops just as the Catholic church supported Hitler...read the history.

2006-09-28 06:11:56 · update #1

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"God does not want war.” That is how Martin Niemöller, a well-known German Protestant clergyman, answered this question shortly after the end of World War II. His comments were published in 1946 in a book called Ach Gott vom Himmel sieh darein—Sechs Predigten (O God, Look From Heaven—Six Sermons). The book states: "It can also be accurately recalled that Christian churches have, throughout the ages, repeatedly given themselves to blessing wars, troops, and weapons and that they prayed in a very unchristian way for the destruction of their enemies at war. All this is our fault and the fault of our fathers, but by no means is God to blame. And we Christians of today stand ashamed before a so-called sect like the Earnest Bible Students [Jehovah’s Witnesses], who by the hundreds and thousands went into concentration camps and [even] died because they declined service in war and refused to fire on humans.”

Today, some 50 years after World War II, Niemöller’s words provide peace-loving people with food for thought. No, God is not to blame for the bloodshed of the nations. Indeed, through his true worshipers, who keep out of the conflicts of the world, God is declaring the imminent end of all war.—Psalm 46:9; John 17:16.
When Watkin said that bishops of the Catholic Church “supported all wars waged by the government of their country,” he included the wars of aggression waged by Hitler. As Roman Catholic professor of history at Vienna University, Friedrich Heer, admitted: “In the cold facts of German history, the Cross and the swastika came ever closer together, until the swastika proclaimed the message of victory from the towers of German cathedrals, swastika flags appeared round altars and Catholic and Protestant theologians, pastors, churchmen and statesmen welcomed the alliance with Hitler.”

Catholic Church leaders gave such unqualified support to Hitler’s wars that the Roman Catholic professor Gordon Zahn wrote: “The German Catholic who looked to his religious superiors for spiritual guidance and direction regarding service in Hitler’s wars received virtually the same answers he would have received from the Nazi ruler himself.”

That Catholics obediently followed the direction of their church leaders was documented by Professor Heer. He noted: “Of about thirty-two million German Catholics—fifteen and a half million of whom were men—only seven [individuals] openly refused military service. Six of these were Austrians.” More recent evidence indicates that a few other Catholics, as well as some Protestants, stood up against the Nazi State because of religious convictions. Some even paid with their lives, while at the same time their spiritual leaders were selling out to the Third Reich.

As noted above, Professor Heer included Protestant leaders among those who “welcomed the alliance with Hitler.” Many Protestants have writhed in self-incrimination for remaining silent during Hitler’s wars of aggression. For example, 11 leading clergymen met in October 1945 to draw up the so-called Stuttgart admission of guilt. They said: “We accuse ourselves for not having been more courageous in confessing our convictions, more faithful in saying our prayers, more joyful in expressing our faith, and more ardent in showing our love.”

Susannah Heschel, a professor of Judaic studies, uncovered church documents proving that the Lutheran clergy were willing, yes anxious, to support Hitler. She said they begged for the privilege of displaying the swastika in their churches. The overwhelming majority of clergymen were not coerced collaborators, her research showed, but were enthusiastic supporters of Hitler and his Aryan ideals.

As a lecturer, Heschel is frequently asked by church members, “What could we have done?”

“You could have been like Jehovah’s Witnesses,” she replies.

The reason the churches were silent becomes clear. It is because Christendom’s clergy and their flocks had abandoned the teachings of the Bible in favor of supporting the political state. In 1933 the Roman Catholic Church concluded a concordat with the Nazis. Roman Catholic cardinal Faulhaber wrote to Hitler: “This handshake with the Papacy . . . is a feat of immeasurable blessing. . . . May God preserve the Reich Chancellor Hitler.”

Indeed, the Catholic Church and other churches as well became handmaidens of the evil Hitler government. Even though Jesus Christ said his true followers “are no part of the world,” the churches and their parishioners became an integral part of Hitler’s world. (John 17:16.) As a result, they failed to speak out about the horrors against humanity that were committed by the Nazis in their death camps.

True, a few courageous individuals from the Catholic, Protestant, and various other religions stood up against the Nazi State. But even as some of them paid with their lives, their spiritual leaders, who claimed to serve God, were serving as puppets of the Third Reich.
When the League of Nations was proposed, the nations that had just fought in the first world war, as well as the clergy who had blessed their troops, had already demonstrated that they had forsaken the law of God. They were not looking to Christ as King. Thus they assigned to a human organization the role of the Kingdom of God.

Concerning World War I, the book Preachers Present Arms says: “The clercs [clergymen] gave the war its passionate spiritual significance and drive. . . . The church thereby became part and parcel of the war system.” The same was true in World War II. The clergy fully supported the warring nations and blessed their troops. Two world wars began in Christendom in which fellow religionists slaughtered one another. Secular and religious factions within Christendom continue causing bloodshed down to the present time. What horrible effects their false teachings have had!
Was this support of opposing armies done with Vatican approval? Consider: On December 8, 1939, just three months after the outbreak of World War II, Pope Pius XII issued the pastoral letter Asperis Commoti Anxietatibus. The letter was addressed to chaplains in armies of the warring nations, and it urged those on both sides to have confidence in their respective military bishops. The letter admonished the chaplains “as fighters under the flags of their country to fight also for the Church.”

Religion often takes an aggressive lead in mobilizing countries for war. “Even in our churches we have put the battle flags,” admitted the late Harry Emerson Fosdick, a Protestant clergyman.

“The record of the Vatican in relationship to the Holocaust is one of the great moral failures in history—one from which the Catholic Church itself has yet to recover,” writes columnist James Carroll in The Boston Globe. To back up his point, he lists the following historical data: “1929—The Lateran Pacts between Mussolini and Pius XI give the Vatican freedom and money, and they give needed prestige to Mussolini. 1933—The Vatican signs a Concordat with Hitler, his first international success. . . . 1935—Mussolini invades Abyssinia. Catholic bishops bless Italian troops . . . 1939—Mussolini decrees an end to the rights of Jews in Italy. The pope says nothing. . . . 1942—The pope receives reports from Italian army chaplains about the extermination of the Jews. In his Christmas message, he bemoans the fate of ‘unfortunate people’ killed because of their race, but he does not mention Hitler, Germany or the death camps. Once again, the word ‘Jew’ is not used. . . . 1943—Germans begin to round up Jews in Italy, even in Rome near the Vatican. The pope is still silent.”

If you would like further information on how God will bring a world without war, please contact Jehovah's Witnesses at the local Kingdom Hall. Or visit http://www.watchtower.org

2006-09-28 06:27:55 · answer #1 · answered by Jeremy Callahan 4 · 0 1

1. The blessing that troops receive is a prayer to God to keep them safe and let them return home quickly.

2. Catholics do not believe that Baptism is a guarantee trip to Heaven. It is merely the first step in a journey towards Heaven. The Catholic Church teaches that if a person commits a mortal sin and dies without receiving forgiveness, they will not enter Heaven. Non-Catholic Christians believe in "once saved, always saved"

3. A person becomes a priest because he answers a call from God to serve His people in that way.

It is really pathetic that you ask such questions, say you are not trying to be rude, and then call Catholics hypocrites.

2006-09-28 06:02:48 · answer #2 · answered by Sldgman 7 · 0 0

Answers are as follows.

1. Its not kill. The real meaning is murder. Thou shalt not murder. Killing is not necessarly for personal gain but sometimes to defend ones self. Murder is killing someone because it someone benfits you, and only you. (Also, the persons being slaugther, as you imply, are terrorists, who would just love to meet you so they could cut off your head like they do to anyone who does not believe in what they believe.)

2. I'm not sure why they believe that, and I believe they are wrong in that. The infant can not make such a serious choice and by "baptizing" them at such a young age they aren't really acomplining anything. (Also, being a christian, your not suppose to go and do horrible sins in the first place, and try to avoid them.)

3. The reason we have had so many pedohiplie preists possiblely (along with one proven FACT) because of a couple of reasons.
a. Preists are not allowed to marry so they have no outlet and so well... when some poor alter boy comes along... :/ (I don't agree with the fact they shouldn't be married, marry dang you!)
b. Apprently, some of the preists turned out to be gay men who liked little boys. (This is FACT)
c. Lastly, the catholic church has gone down hill.

2006-09-28 06:00:01 · answer #3 · answered by link_althor 2 · 0 0

1. Mistranslation the word should read muder, not kill. Who said the Pope blesses troops to slaughter. Get your facts
2/Catholics do not believe what you said. Where did you get that?
Catholics believe you are born with the taint of Adams sin and it is washed away with baptism, so an innocent baby is not condemned. Many, many religions believe this. Look a little further.
3. Absolutely stupid question. Are you serious? or just wanting to cause trouble. You obviously know nothing about what you are asking. Baptists do the same thing, Rabbis do the same things, Doctors, Dentists, Cops. Give me a break and find a new drum to beat.

You are rude and ignorant. But I hope this helps.

2006-09-28 05:57:09 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

The troops at the instant are not sending themselves to bypass kill human beings. they're despatched with the help of the government, the troops are doing their activity. truthfully, i'm Catholic and that i did not see the place the Pope did bless the troops. He could in spite of the indisputable fact that. he's likewise praying for and working for Peace interior the international. This international may well be lots greater advantageous with Peace and that's what he's working for. Peace be with you.

2016-10-01 11:22:47 · answer #5 · answered by Erika 4 · 0 0

The passage doesn't mean to kill in the general sense, it means do not murder. Murder is different than combat, contrary to what some think.

John the Baptist when asked by soldiers what they should do, didn't tell them to drop their arms and quit being soldiers, the conversation went like this: "Even some soldiers were asking him, "And what should we do?" He told them, "Never extort money from anyone by threats or blackmail, and be satisfied with your pay." (Luke 3:14)

Jesus, when speaking with the Roman Centurion, didn't tell him to quit being a soldier, instead the conversation went like this: "For I, too, am a man under authority and have soldiers under me. I say to one 'Go' and he goes, to another 'Come' and he comes, and to my servant 'Do this' and he does it." When Jesus heard this, he was amazed and said to those who were following him, "Truly I tell you, not even in Israel have I found this kind of faith!" (Matthew 8:9-10) He was commended for his faith, and not condemned for being a soldier.

There is no inconsistency with faith and service as a soldier.

As to the rest of your question, I can't speak for what Catholics believe, as I am not one. And those priests who abuse children will have to answer for their crimes, either in this life or the next, because God is just.

2006-09-28 05:59:10 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You can kill, only not unjustly. I think a lot of Christians are unaware of this and always say Jesus said to turn the other cheek. Be realistic -- you can not possibly survive as a people for more than a few decades by continuing to "turn your cheek".

2006-09-28 05:55:38 · answer #7 · answered by Ibrahim 3 · 0 0

I don't know, but if I were them, I'd duck so nothing coming out from him hits them.

Any group that will kill another group(jews, south american indians, africans, etc.,) to enforce their views and then later pretend it's just ancient history, I don't trust.

2006-09-28 05:56:41 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

War and religion go together.

2006-09-28 05:54:01 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Does he?

2006-09-28 06:02:49 · answer #10 · answered by pinkdeck 2 · 0 0

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