Is the Army losing the war in Iraq?

Question

Army extends troops' Iraq duty yet again By ROBERT BURNS, Military Writer
Mon Sep 26,
WASHINGTON - The Army is stretched so thin by the war in Iraq that it is again extending the combat tours of thousands of soldiers beyond the promised 12 months — the second such move since August.

Soldiers of the 1st Brigade, had been expecting to return to their home base in Germany in mid-January. Instead, they will stay an extra 46 days in Iraq, until late February, the Pentagon announced Monday. The soldiers are operating in western Anbar province, one of the most violent parts of Iraq.

The Pentagon also announced that the 4th Brigade, will deploy to Iraq 30 days earlier than scheduled, starting in late October. The announcement did not say why the speedup was deemed necessary, but three officials who spoke on condition of anonymity said it is part of a plan to beef up forces in Baghdad. The USA Military admits Iraq is having a hard time enforcing peace.

Answer 1

Oh erudite with the continuous altering of articles and lies.... you are so pitiful and easy to expose.....

Let us compare the text from the REAL article (Linked to in my source section... something erudite will never do)....
"The Pentagon also announced that the 4th Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division will deploy to Iraq 30 days earlier than scheduled, starting in late October. The announcement did not say why the speedup was deemed necessary, but three officials who spoke on condition of anonymity said it is part of a plan to beef up forces in Baghdad, where U.S. and Iraqi troops are struggling to contain insurgent and sectarian violence."

With what the habitual liar, erudite, writes...
"The Pentagon also announced that the 4th Brigade, will deploy to Iraq 30 days earlier than scheduled, starting in late October. The announcement did not say why the speedup was deemed necessary, but three officials who spoke on condition of anonymity said it is part of a plan to beef up forces in Baghdad. The USA Military admits Iraq is having a hard time enforcing peace."

Now WHY would this habitual liar want to take out pertinent information and put in "The USA Military admits Iraq is having a hard time enforcing peace."..... Like most terrorist supporters or uber-libs, he is trying to 'prove' a point that cannot be proven, so he must resort to the corruption of data... To lies.... To the attempted fooling or tricking of others... for his stance holds absolutely no water.....

Nice try again.... but I will not allow you to skew the facts... I will expose you as a liar, every chance I get

Answer 2

What was the reason for the war again?

If it is transition of the Bathist Government to a new government it is underway, however the "reason" for this seems questionable, at the least it gave an identity change and lifted sanctions.

Now they are there too.... stave off a dramatically deadly civil war, instead cause a somewhat disfunctional government and slow decline until a democractic majority of shiite always is reached until there is enough of a split in the shiite vote to allow a sunni / bathist government into power again?

Or is it something else.
With afghanistan set for taking "20 years" until the mission is accomplished, how long would it be for Iraq "40 years? 100 years?"

Anyway 2008 is the end of Bush's presidency.. what happens after that is anyones geuss.

when is peak oil set to be done again?
right
global warming 20
peak oil 40
--- then what ?

As long as there is a reason for the missions they will happen. What is the reason though.. is it oil? Or is it something else? What about Afghanistan, what is that about?

Is it about government change by force, commodities a combination.. is mission accomplished.. will it ever be accomplished...?

Why are people against the war.. why were they for the war? Is it all just a reaction to propaganda.. and now that that propaganda is saying the war is bad.. are the people listening.. is it all some mindless PR game?

Answer 3

The earliest intention of Iraqi war is not the winning. There is a hidden agenda or I can say a different agenda for the war. I let you find out what that agenda is because it is well know world wide. I can call this war as unwinnable war that Americans ever waged. Just as Lebanon incursion by israel, it was unwinnable and unsuccessful. The physical intention of americans is to win the war in iraq and stop insurgents attacks. But what is happening now seems to be fuelling up the violence, sectarian crisis, more insurgency, etc. So as the mission of israeli invaiton of lebanon is to stop hezbollah from firing rockets and crossborder attacks into israel. What had happened is seen as the worst defeat received from the part of israel, being it the first incompleted mission to israel. Since from 1967, 1982, etc, israel made several successful attacks into the neighbouring Arabs countries. But this time the story is different, just a little Hezbollab foiled the incursion and defeated israel.

It is unfortunate.

Answer 4

There was never anything to be won. Removing Hussein meant unleashing a civil was and everyone with any knowledge of the region predicted it.

In fact, the entire world, including Iraq's neighbors Saudi Arabia and Kuwait - except for Bush and Blair - knew there was no upside - at all.

Iraq, like Afghanistan, is lost. But, how can the military lose something that never existed.

The bigger problem is that we are losing the war on terror. We can afford to lose in Iraq, but losing the war on terror will destroy America and probably western Europe as well.

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mrcricket1932 -

The Founding Fathers were wise enough to place the military under secular civilian authority. Therefore, it is not there call. It is not their expertise, it is not what they are trained in or trained for.

Answer 5

The US ground forces are indeed stretched thin with only 2 or 3 combat regiments in reserve.
I think it's time for the Draft! Yes i have served 5 years US Army. More American need the sting of war so that we never again are so easily duped with such transparent and ridiculous lies.

Answer 6

We lose one US soldier - which is more than the ppl of islam nations deserve - and it seems we are losing. But it is a war. It's gonna happen. I did my tour and I'm retired. I hate to accompany a 20-something to his home and hear his high school band play taps. It hurts!

As a side, I think intracircumcordei brings up some interesting points. And lets not forget we didn't go there and bomb them! Perhaps we should have but we didn't.

Randy Newman says it best;

No one likes us-I don't know why
We may not be perfect, but heaven knows we try
But all around, even our old friends put us down
Let's drop the big one and see what happens

We give them money-but are they grateful?
No, they're spiteful and they're hateful
They don't respect us-so let's surprise them
We'll drop the big one and pulverize them

I agree!

Answer 7

How can we tell whether the US army is winning or losing when we don't even have a clearcut enemy....?

Just saying "terrorists" are the enemy is so vague.

You should watch Clinton's interview on Fox News this past sunday as well as Keith Olberman's statement about his interview on MSNBC.

We've been duped...the war in Iraq is a farce...no WMD's, no nothing. We're just more unsafe now than we used to be.

Answer 8

No we are not losing the war. Actually we won the war already once Saddam was captured. Granted they are having a hard time stopping the insurgents, but if you think about the mission now it's more or less a political mission. We are a police force over there now. But at least for every casualty we suffer they are losing more people. But with every person they lose more rise up, which is exactly why we send more troops over there.

Answer 9

It's not a war, it's a police action.

In a war you have two sides. One side wears white hats and the other side wears black hats. You know who to shoot at.

In this action then enemy "soliders" look just like the civilian population.

In the Russian Revolutionary war the two sides wore distinct arm bands. The communists wore red ones and the defending side, the Monarchy side, wore white ones.

Red, shot at white.

White shot at red.

Neither side shot at anyone without an arm band, uness they were shooting at you.

This action is like trying to control a riot in your own city. 10-20,000 police trying to control a million people all of whom are angry, but only a few of whom are actually violently rioting.

Answer 10

No, the Army is not losing the war. They won the war, and are now stuck there by Politicians who want them to be the Policemen for a country that kills each other due to religious differences.