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Benedict quoted a conversation from the 13th century between the then-Christian Emperor and a "learned Persian", who had been debating the two religions while snowed in at the Emperor's palace one winter. The topic at hand was actually the reasonableness and logic of the knowledge of God, and our need for communicating our faith effectively.

At one point, the Emperor is quoted as saying that "Mohammed brought nothing new, except for things evil and inhumane, for he spread by the sword the faith that he preached" . The emperor's point was that faith cannot be "spread by the sword", it has to be communicated in a reasonable way, and that is it.

The accusations (from centuries ago) that Mohammed "brought nothing but evil" and "spread his faith through violence" has been recieved as an insult by many Muslims. They claim that since Benedict did not immediately put a disclaimer on that quote "But I think otherwise...yada yada yada", that Benedict is claiming that quote for himself. They are therefore burning Churches and killing Christians as a protest.

2006-09-25 15:20:37 · answer #1 · answered by MamaBear 6 · 2 1

He simply QUOTED a long dead pope who said Muhammad spread Islam by force. That's right, he quoted a man who died hundreds of years ago and causes all this controversy. They weren't even his words. I'm not catholic and I don't even like this pope, but I do have to say that he did nothing wrong.

2006-09-25 22:12:33 · answer #2 · answered by Kaiser32 3 · 0 0

Questioning the concept of holy war, he quoted a 14th-Century Christian emperor who said Muhammad had brought the world only "evil and inhuman" things.

The speech sparked several days of protests in Muslim countries. It seems that the truth hurts.

2006-09-25 22:12:54 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Here is a link to the English translation of the Pope's controversial speech: http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/speeches/2006/september/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20060912_university-regensburg_en.html

With love in Christ.

2006-09-26 01:26:35 · answer #4 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 0 0

well actually he was pissing of people from other religions and not Islam. he said it was the stupidity of the Emperor who had killed many people himself to say something about Muhammed and how wrong the Emperor was. also he was trying to tell his people that -- they should be a little more respectful to others.

bt as usual the media got in and gave an out of context and the rest as u know is History.

2006-09-25 22:26:22 · answer #5 · answered by marissa 5 · 0 2

He said the turth,nothing else,that muslims are terrorists..

2006-09-25 22:17:16 · answer #6 · answered by Salbeeh 2 · 2 1

He said we shoulf all flush the holy books of the Muslims

http://flushaholybook.com

2006-09-25 22:09:50 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

He says he's infallible, so whatever it was, it must be true.

2006-09-25 22:10:40 · answer #8 · answered by stevewbcanada 6 · 1 3

NOTHING TO PONDER UPON

2006-09-25 22:09:20 · answer #9 · answered by I-C-U 5 · 2 3

On Tuesday, September 12th, Pope Benedict XVI made a speech on "Faith and Reason" at the University of Regensburg in Germany and quoted from writings of an erudite 14th Century Byzantine Christian Emperor, Manuel II Palaiologos. Manuel II took notes during his dialogs in 1391 with the Persian Muderris at Ankara and his notebooks were preserved as the "Twenty-six Dialogs with a Persian" on the "truths of Christianity and Islam". The pontiff quoted Manuel II who said that spreading the faith through violence is unreasonable and that acting without reason was against God's nature.

Manuel II's empire had been conquerored by Muslims and was made to pay the jizyah (submission tribute) so naturally he experienced Islam at its worst. Between 1379 and 1402 Byzantium had paid 690,000 hyperpyra (or 345,000 ducats) to the Ottomans.
http://www.roman-emperors.org/manuel2.htm

The pontiff said, "Speaking about the issue of jihad, holy war, the emperor [Manuel II] said, 'Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.'"

"Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul," added the pontiff in his own words.
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/speeches/2006/september/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20060912_university-regensburg_en.html
http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=46474

Muslim reaction to that speech spanned from outrage to violence against nuns and churches. An Iraqi insurgent group threatened the Vatican with a suicide attack over the pope's remarks on Islam, according to a statement posted Saturday on the Web.

"We swear to God to send you people who adore death as much as you adore life," said the message posted in the name of the Mujahedeen Army on a Web site frequently used by militant groups. The message's authenticity could not be independently verified. The statement was addressed to "you dog of Rome" and threatens to "shake your thrones and break your crosses in your home."

Full statement by Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone on Pope Benedict XVI's response to Muslim anger over a speech he gave in Germany Tuesday... the pontiff was "very sorry" if he offended the sensibilities of Muslims worldwide.
http://www.islamonline.net/English/News/2006-09/16/05a.shtml

On Sunday, September 17th the pontiff said, " I am deeply sorry for the reactions in some countries to a few passages of my address at the University of Regensburg, which were considered offensive to the sensibility of Muslims."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5353774.stm

At his weekly audience in St Peters Square on Wednesday, September 22, the pope said, "I wished to explain that not religion and violence but religion and reason go together," he said.

On Monday, September 25, at Castel Gandalfo, the summer palace, Pope Benedict met with 21 ambassadors of Muslim countries as well as leaders of Italy's own Muslim community.
http://cbs3.com/topstories/topstories_story_265051734.html
http://reuters.myway.com/article/20060922/2006-09-22T102431Z_01_L22706866_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-POPE-ISLAM-MEETING-DC.html

Addressing the 21 Muslim diplomats, the pope did say that Christians and Muslims must work together to “guard against all forms of intolerance and to oppose all manifestations of violence.” Among predominantly Muslim nations with diplomatic relations to the Vatican, only Sudan did not participate in the meeting. Saudi Arabia does not have diplomatic relations with the Holy See.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/25/ap/world/mainD8KBU0Q00.shtml
http://www.beatricedailysun.com/articles/2006/09/25/news/news4.txt

Muslims considered what the pope said to be "tajdif" (blasphemy). Furthermore, the timing of the speech was just before Ramadan, the holy month of fasting. Dates for Ramadan 2006 (or the Islamic year of 1427 are September 24th thru October 23rd.

Some contemporary evangelical Christian leaders such as Jerry Falwell and Jerry Vines have called Muhammad "a terrorist" and a "demon possessed pedophile who had twelve wives". Daniel Pipes sees Muhammad as a politician, stating that "because Muhammad created a new community, the religion that was its raison d'etre had to meet the political needs of its adherents." By contrast, Pope Benedict quoting Manuel II seems quite mild but because Islam is a theocratic system where there is no separation of religion and state, what the pope said has more relevance to them.

Here is what Robbie Burns wrote and I think it can also be applied to jihaddists of today although it was written for Christians:
"On Thanksgiving For A National Victory"
Ye hypocrites are these your pranks
to murder men and give God thanks?
Desist, for shame proceed no further
God does ne want your thanks for murder.

Yah, I know, there is no compulsion in religion (2:256) and Islam is a peaceful religion. Taqiyah.

The one page essay by Dr. Walid Phares, "Islamic concept of Al-Taqiyah to infiltrate and destroy kafir countries" explains how a convert will become a terrorist:
http://www.fisiusa.org/fisi_News_items/news109.htm

Phares states, "It [taqiyah] is done to prevent the new converts from seeing the real face of Islam; at least until their faith or mental conditioning is strong enough to make them turn against their own country and people."

Not all Muslims blow up things, yet "jihad in the cause of Allah" "jihad fee sybil Allah" is "fard ayn" "compulsory duty" for all Muslims. Why? There are rules from the Quran for combattive jihad. Read this:
http://www.notislam.com/id8.html

Islam is insidious, it encroaches on a culture slowly and deliberately. Here is a document which discusses the progression of Islam in great detail (50+ pages) -- "From dawa to jihad - the various threats from radical Islam to the democratic legal order":
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/netherlands/dawa.pdf

Among Muslims there are those who:
a) jihad in the path of Allah with their wealth and their lives (including those who sit at home but give asylum to mujahidin 4:74) = true Muslim
b) those who sit at home (and do not give asylum to mujahidin or jihad in the path of Allah)
c) the handicapped (does not count as a category)

According to the Qur'an who is a true believer?

3:140 If you have sustained a wound, _ (a blow in the battlefield) _ others too have suffered a similar kind of wound, earlier. These are the vicissitudes of life that We circulate among mankind by turns. Thus, Allah tests the true believers among you, so He may pick the martyrs among you. Allah does not like the wrongdoers.

4:95 The two are not equal: those who sit at home (and do not join the fighting) _ unless they have a reason; they are handicapped _ and those who [jihad] strive hard in the path of Allah with their wealth and lives. Over those who sit at home, Allah has excelled and elevated to a higher honor those who strive hard with their wealth and lives.
Compared to those who sit at home, Allah will award a far greater reward to those who wage a struggle.

8:74 Those who believed, left their homes and waged a struggle for the cause of Allah as well as those who helped and protected them are really the true believers. There is forgiveness for them and a generous rewards.

49:15 The (true) believers are actually those who believe in Allah and His messenger and then do not waver (and do not entertain doubts). With their wealth and their lives, they strive for the sake of Allah. Such are truly the sincere ones

9:86 As soon as a chapter (of the Qur’an) is revealed (instructing them), “Believe in Allah and wage a struggle along with His messenger” the able bodied (and well to do) among them ask to be exempted. They say, “Leave us (behind). Let us be among those who sit at home

Killing (qitl) and jihad in the cause of Allah is the hallmark of true Muslim believers. It is not a matter of moderate or fanatic. It is the distinction of a true believer or a rebel.

4:76 Those who believe, do fight for the sake of Allah, while those who reject faith (Islam) fight for the cause of ‘taghut’ _ (all rebellious forces aligned against Allah). So, fight against the minions of Shaitan. Feeble indeed is the wily guile of Shaitan!

Does this include atomic weapons?
8:60 Acquire and prepare all the (military) strength you can muster, including the finest trained horses (and other military wares). With that, you would daunt and deter the enemies of Allah _ your enemies, and others besides them. You do not know them, but Allah (surely) knows them. Anything you spend in the path of Allah will be returned to you in full. You will not be wronged (at all).

2:216 Warfare (for the sake of Allah) has been ordained for you, though it is not something you like. It is possible that the thing you detest might just (turn out to) be good for you. It is possible that the thing you like (the most) might in reality be bad for you. Allah knows (all) while you know nothing (at all)!

4:74 Those who have traded away the life of this world for (the benefits of) the life-to-come, ought to fight for the sake of Allah. To anyone who fights for the sake of Allah, We will award the most generous reward whether he is killed (in the process) or comes out victorious.

These verses from the Qur'an can give us insight into the mind of a Muslim believer and the peaceful religion of Islam. Do read the entire sura from which they were extracted to get the entire context of the verses. It may make a difference.

2006-09-26 01:07:09 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

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