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Is it true that in the book of Deuteronomy it says that " A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the Lord"? Cause that doesn't sound like God not letting people without married parents take part with him.

2006-09-25 14:18:27 · 9 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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2006-09-25 14:19:50 · answer #1 · answered by Ryan R 2 · 0 1

a person whose parents are not married is not illegitimate in judaism.

and this verse is saying that "mamzerim" are not allowed to marry "non-mamzerim." english versions translate the word "mamzer" as"bastard" but this is not what the word actually means.

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why do people who have no knowledge of hebrew claim to know the meaning of mamzerim? a mamzer is not a child born of two unmarried parents, nor is it a person who has a "heathen parent." a mamzer is a person who is either the product of incest, or an adulterous relationship. the verse is clearly talking about marriage, commanding that mamzerim are not allowed to marry non-mamzerim, probably to keep genetic disorders among the population at a minimum.

"Mamzer (Hebrew: ממזר) in Halakha (Jewish religious law) is a product of certain illegitimate relationships between two Jews. That is, one who is born from a married woman as a product of adultery or someone born as a product of close relatives. The mamzer status is inherited by children; a child of a mamzer (whether mother or father) is also a mamzer. While the word mamzer is often translated as, "bastard" unlike the colloquial usage of bastard, a mamzer is not a child born out of wedlock or between people of two different faiths.

Other than with respect to the laws of marriage and other minor differences a mamzer is a full-fledged Jew. A mamzer is not a second class citizen and is treated with as much respect as other Jews. It is written in the Talmud that "A learned mamzer takes precedence over an ignorant high priest (Kohen Gadol)".

2006-09-25 21:21:10 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

No where in the Bible does it support Sexual relationship outside of marriage. Nature does not support it either. The developing child requires both the Male and the Female in order to develop into a emotionally stable child.

Neither can one alone bring life into this world. It takes both!

The input that the child requires from the male cannot be satisfied by the female, and the reverse is true with the female.

While you were reading Deuteronomy, did you read what was written about two males or two females trying sex together?

Death by stoning, but then, that is throughout the book.

2006-09-25 21:28:51 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

In Deuteronomy 23: the word is mam-zare and does not mean un married. A child of a Jewish man and a heathen woman has a polluted blood line . Jews are not to marry outside the Tribes. so at least at this time the word had nothing to do with being un married . It was more a matter of a heathen bringing idols into the house or dedicating a child to blood sacrifice.

2006-09-25 21:35:37 · answer #4 · answered by timex846 3 · 1 0

That doesn't surprise me. The Book of Deuteronomy is filled with shocking claims. Like how if a town says that a woman wasn't a virgin on her wedding night, her father is supposed to take the bloodstained sheet from the marriage bed to prove she was. Also, when a man gets married, he should take a whole year off work and make his wife happy. With quotations like the one you just mentioned, that proves that the Bible was written soley by men, not by men inspired by God because no All-Loving, All-Powerful, and All-Knowing God would ever reject an "illegitimate" child. How is it the child's fault that his parents had pre-marital sex? If that quotation were true, that would mean that God is a heartless, malevolent Being.

2006-09-25 21:36:45 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Bastard
In the Old Testament the rendering of the Hebrew word mamzer', which means "polluted." In De 23:2, it occurs in the ordinary sense of illegitimate offspring. In Zec 9:6, the word is used in the sense of foreigner. From the history of Jephthah we learn that there were bastard offspring among the Jews (Jg 11:1-7). In Heb 12:8, the word (Gr. nothoi) is used in its ordinary sense, and denotes those who do not share the privileges of God's children.

2006-09-25 21:26:55 · answer #6 · answered by Bushit 4 · 0 0

The exclusion “to the tenth generation” of the sons of one who was illegitimate upheld Jehovah’s law against adultery. (Ex 20:14) Furthermore, it would cause confusion and a breakdown of the family arrangement for the illegitimate son to inherit; he could have no inheritance in Israel.

Of course, this law did not express eternal judgment against individuals. Among those resurrected from the dead and given an opportunity to learn the divine will in God’s new order will be persons who had been born out of wedlock.—Rev. 20:13.

Today Jehovah God is not dealing with just one nation of people. The Mosaic law, with its provision debarring illegitimate sons from becoming members of the congregation of his people, is not binding on Christians. (Col. 2:13, 14) The opportunity to become one of God’s servants is therefore not closed to anyone. Through divine revelation the Christian apostle Peter learned that ‘no man should be called defiled or unclean’ because of nationality. (Acts 10:28) Hence, when addressing the first non-Jews to embrace Christianity, he said: “For a certainty I perceive that God is not partial, but in every nation the man that fears him and works righteousness is acceptable to him.” (Acts 10:34, 35) This means that all people, even those born out of wedlock, can become approved servants of God, provided that they live in harmony with his will.

2006-09-25 21:35:34 · answer #7 · answered by da chet 3 · 0 0

You found one of the many flaws of organized religion. Good for you. If God is so forgiving & accepting, then what is he doing condemning innocent unborn children?

2006-09-25 21:23:07 · answer #8 · answered by No More 7 · 0 2

One more reason to not love that book.

2006-09-25 21:21:49 · answer #9 · answered by AuroraDawn 7 · 1 2

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