Why would he have a son for the sole purpose of dying for our sins? To be omnipotent is to be all-powerful, which means that he could've done ANYTHING to solve that pesky little problem, so why did he chose the sacrifice of a human being? Is it that he's not really omnipotent, or is it just that he's bloodthirsty and sadistic?
2006-09-25 10:04:21 · 21 answers · asked by Spookshow Baby 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Spookshow, after ready some of your other posts, I am now a loyal follower!
But, you are absolutely correct. Why does an all-powerful god feel the NEED to have worship from someone that compared to him would be like ants worshipping us. What would be the point? If he were truly loving, why not openly show the world his power. Instead, he asks us to "kiss Hank's Butt', knowing that no person can prove he exists except through self-relying loop holes.
How do they know god exists? Because the bible says so.
Did god write the bible? No, he "inspired" some men to write it.
Are they alive or around to ask? No, long since dead.
How can we be sure this is in fact the word of god then? Because he says so.
But, how do we know that god really exists? Because the bible says so.
Constantly going in circles does not prove a point. It always ends in the religious people pointing at us, saying that they feel sorry because we will experience hell and they know god's love. Just a sad circle that so many of the world's population are willing to buy into religions to comfort their own weak and dependant minds.
2006-09-25 10:17:55 · answer #1 · answered by TonerLow69 3 · 2⤊ 2⤋
You answered your own question. He IS omnipotent and he could have done anything. Except he will not do things that are against his nature. This is not a statement about God’s lack of power but about Him doing something that is against his nature. God could certainly forgive any way he chooses, but note this verse:
Proverb 17:15
He who justifies the wicked, and he who condemns the just,
Both of them alike are an abomination to the LORD.
God cannot demand justice for sin and at the same time overlook sin. It would be a contradiction of his nature. He would be an abomination to himself if he were to “just forgive”.
The real interesting thing about this though, is God created man, knowing full well that they would sin against him. He knew that he was going to send a Savior, His Son, that would be the sacrifice for all so that He would get all the glory. He did this to save us so that we could say “what a great God”! A God who would sacrifice Himself for the sin of the world. And we think that we have the right to demand God do things our way?! That God should bow down to us? That even though we sinned against Him that he should let us into heaven anyway?
And what you refer to as a pesky little problem is sin to God. We see sin as something trivial and inconsequential, but God sees it as an abomination. Every time we lie, steal, look with lust (Jesus says that it is the same as adultery) we are storing up wrath that will be unleashed upon us on Judgement day. While God is loving (the Cross proves that) he is also just, holy, righteous, and wrath-filled. He can have no sin in his presence. This might seem “bloodthirsty and sadistic” as you write if it weren’t for one thing – He made a way out! “While we were yet sinners Christ died for us!” God loves all of us that much. And all it requires is that you humble yourself before him and admit you don’t know as much as you think you do. He has done something wonderful. And there are two things you must do. First repent (turn from sin) and then put your trust in Jesus that he took the punishment for your sins.
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2006-09-25 10:40:52 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
he wouldn't... er, didn't... have a son for the sole purpose of dying for sins that is.
it wasn't a problem to begin with for exactly the point you make
ohhh, I guess your just meaning to christians... well that makes more sense, ;-)
some of the things I read here have shown me lately how un-omnipotent most christians seem to see their god.
its quite boggling really, to someone who does have a truly omnipotent god... how someone could belive in such ways about a god they say is omnipotent, when clearly their other beliefs and opinions make it quite clear they don't realize what omnipotence would mean, or truly attribute that trait to their deity.
2006-09-25 10:09:25 · answer #3 · answered by RW 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
This is a difficult question and I don't know if you sincerely want an answer or are looking for ammunition to support your own assertions... but here goes...
God is omnipotent, "having unlimited or universal power". He chose to create man in His own image and not only gave us the choice, but the intelligence to make those choices. The "tree of life" or "the knowledge of good and evil" provided access to the knowledge that we could, in fact, choose NOT to obey God, hence the serpent telling Eve that she would be like God and that she surely would not die. Advance forward a bit and you see that when Cane slew Able, God says that He heard the cry of Able's blood upon the ground, the second sacrifice of blood due to sin... (the first were the animals sacrificed to cloth Adam and Eve). God says the life is in the blood. Atonement for sin has been the sacrifice of blood. Please don't spin this to mean that we are to sacrifice the blood of humans for some selfish ritual. The blood had to be pure. Jesus was the "blood without spot" that was the pre-ordained, ultimate sacrifice for sin. It could not have happened any other way than for the Son of God, as a son of man, (virgin woman) to be that sacrifice. Humans are never, ever perfect. A human sacrifice could not have achieved the pure sacrifice that the Son of God, who was God, did. It's really not complicated if you believe. This was ordained from before creation as God says over and over again that He knew we were a rebelious and stiff-necked, (stubborn), people. So, why did He allow us choice that caused the advent of sin? Would you want anyone to love you because they had to or knew nothing else? We are made in God's image, make choices and it's perfectly understandable that He would want us to make the choice to love Him. Otherwise, He could have communed with witless animals and been no worse for wear. It's about choice and the fact that we, on our own without the sacrifice of Jesus for our sinful nature, would not be allowed in the prescence of God without sacrifice for atonement. God provided the sacrifice for our sins so that we could be with him if we chose to be. As I said, if you believe, it makes perfect sense and can be found clearly defined in the Bible. If you don't believe, it won't matter to you anyway.
2006-09-25 10:38:06 · answer #4 · answered by reformed 3 · 1⤊ 2⤋
God (as we will presume to be the Creator of you, me & everything else) is God.
He is the beginning & the end.
He is omnipresent, omnipotent, omni everything...
The very reason, I can think of, that God would send his Son to die for man's sins, is for the feeble minds of men (as created beings) to grasp, comprehend and understand the concept of a loving, relationship-conscious God, who already have gave man, prior to sending His Son, the concept of sacrifice and offerings .
Man have grown a lot smarter and a lot techno, but that still doesn't take away the fact, that God wanted to show man how He loves them, in a simple yet profound way, that even as a little child can understand it, learned men throughout the ages have been tantalized and debated it.
But if some people have become more "intelligent" than God, then that's another story.
2006-09-25 10:24:28 · answer #5 · answered by 4x4 4 · 1⤊ 2⤋
ok, first things first, he is a God of Justice and of course you all know the law of Moses Exodus 20, it is pretty imposible to do all those things with out failing in one of them, for example one of the commandments say to honor your father and mother... Ex. 20:12, I just wonder how many times U didn't obey your parents? yes we all failed in that, the punishment in those days was death... that was justice in that time...
Ok, mankind needed to be punished from their sins, and who was good enough please God in those commandments? nobody, the only thing you needed to do is to get a substitute to die for you, and the sacrifice needed to be perfect in order to be forgiven, theres where the sacrifices started.
Jesus was the only person who passed the test of the ten commandments, he was perfect in all his ways, making him perfect for the Final sacrifice to restore mankind, The Bible states that Jesus is like a second Adam, Because sin came within one man, also Life or forgiveness came from another.
God could simply restore all things with out that plan, but how could every one learn from the mistake if it can be undone? God wants you to learn. And we need to learn well in order to step ahead in life.
Another example, do u have car insurence? Of course you do (if u are in the US) whay would happen if someday u have a car crash? U are ok , but oh wait the insurance company will give u a hand. and help u with all the expenses. the other case is u dont have it so youre busted and have to pay everything. the next time you drive you wont do it b4 calling geiko, so you learned...
The law tells you to have insurance, you say no, now you pay.... would you learn a thing if we can set the tape on rewind and change the scene so you could be safe from the accident???
I hope I made my point. Take care.
2006-09-25 10:46:47 · answer #6 · answered by Ivan Rudametkin 1 · 1⤊ 2⤋
My god is purely conceptual... Basically a term I use to describe the relationship between everything in the universe.
I think that Jesus was just a man, and he died not to wash away the sins of others... just to open their eyes to a different way of thinking about life... death... love... and sacrifice.
When you look at it that way... I think he really has the power to save you. He doesn't give you access to a fairy tale afterlife... He turns you into a selfless being... who brings heaven to others.
To seek heaven is to never find it.
2006-09-25 10:15:28 · answer #7 · answered by Big Daddy T 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Great question. Doesnt make sense does it? I love the response of "He did it out of Love." What kind of Love is that? Kill your own son, to save mankind from the wrath of....GOD HIMSELF???? WTF?
Furthermore, on top of not being omnipotent, he isnt all loving either.... An Alll loving creator would not create evil for the sole purpose of toturing his creations for not worshipping him.
Senseless BS. At least some of us see through it. You can tell when you strike a nerve - all the thumbs down your question gets....
2006-09-25 10:10:43 · answer #8 · answered by YDoncha_Blowme 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
The pretzel logic , as explained to me, was God was sorry for being such and egotistical butthead that he jumped into the womb of some, young, dumb and never had come Jewess.
He decided to put himself in our shoes if we lived 2K yrs ago. Then he committed suicide after instructing his followers to give good foot and to ritualistically cannibalize him in his remembrance.
God's a bi-polar manic depressive. He prayed to himself, asked himself to forgive the people he allowed to kill him. No wonder I am ashamed to be a human being sometimes.
2006-09-25 10:27:10 · answer #9 · answered by Chronic Observer 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I go for bloodthirsty and sadistic. All one has to do is read Exodus to figure that out. It is full of mass murder and genocide committed by ones called "gods people".
2006-09-25 10:11:41 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋