christians, why do you believe G-d kicked adam and eve out of the garden because of their sinful nature?

Question

and why do you believe that, because of their sins, you are born innately sinful? scriptural references solely from the genesis story, please.

*eyeroll* they can't even answer a question about their basic philosophy... how sad

i asked for scriptural references, Chelal, not opinion with no scriptural basis.

"The G-d of the Old Testament was hateful,vengful,and spiteful." excuse me, but don't call my G-d evil. my G-d does not sentence billions of human beings to hell, as yours does. THAT is true evil.

the bible says that G-d cursed adam and eve with toiling in the ground and childbirth as punishment for their sins. then, as an afterthought, G-d worried that they would also eat of the tree of life and become immortal, and THAT is the reason he booted them from the garden.

Answer 1

Interesting question.

But, you should be aware by now, that the story of Adam & Eve, and the Garden of Eden is just that. A *story*!!!

No need to quote Genesis. When one's premise is false, the conclusion, so arrived at, is false, too.

;-)

Answer 2

Little Russian school girl who be Jew:
Adam and Eve are metaphors, as you may know, they did not in every sense exist in fact, the "apple" 'is an act' which murst not be performed by man although animals mayest, I won't explicitize to sordid your mind but you can guess!
As the story proceeds it is also important to note the stress the detail of, Knowing the schism of good and evil, and that these things happened twain; and where it wath the will of God that they receive it not of that tree, and not in that manner; but from God by heavenly fruition.
I'm kind of ify about this but I think the "Old Testament" was written by one person(!)
Jesus makes a couple references to "The Prophet" not a scpecific but "The" -- Toward the begining of the NT, which I encourage you to read ( and again when, 'He was amongst them', some said, This is THE PROPHET and others, This is Christ.
Regardless of whether you love Jesus or not that documentary is gold overlooked by all and I fear, the Pope not in least!
The haps of the OT are not exactly fact as with the NT they are written in the same vein of elaborate metaphor: for instance, Your People (I am Sephardic Jew) were never "actually" slaves in Egypt, it is but a device employed by the author -- an elaborate metaphor: Moses "didn't" part the Red Sea just as Jesus never "actually" walked on water... check your annals their is not even the slightest touch Egyptian in Names and etymology.
That's the nature of the Bible tools are beheaved to yield faith in the masses where else there would be faithlessness.

Be careful of belittling Christ -- if you don't love Him, a nice school girl like you should at least fear him or respect him for what HE is trying to accomplish. Christ would never hurt you "JewishGirl" don't confuse him with the throngs who mingle blood and wine in His Name. Amen.

P.S.: Jesus wrote the entire New Testament, both the Black and Red... no one else could be capable, to prove the point, and it was for this He was put to death, there weren't a bunch of Jews writing about Him He "didn't" bring the dead to life; He "didn't"
show up after he was killed and socialize... basically a "Liar" -- it was just Him a one man show [Tolkien:"He Who is Alone"] :: so he was snuffed. But he used the same devices as the penner of the Tanahk. So it is that even Christ was a man but made Himself God!

Answer 3

Well, why else would he have kicked them out? For the fun of it? What do you think that G-d meant when he told them that if they ate from the tree of knowledge that they would "die"?

And what did G-d mean when he pronounced "curses" upon Adam and Even based on what they did? A "curse" sounds like a punishment to me.

Actually, most of the Christian teachings on this subject comes from the writings of the Apostle Paul (Rabbi Saul) of Tarsus. Since you have excluded the possibility of someone making any references to the New Testament in your question, then your question is almost impractical to answer. How can you honestly ask Christians about Christan beliefs without relying upon Christian writings?

I feel that this is intended to be a trick question; you seem to be trying to ridicule Christian beliefs rather than honestly trying to understand Christian theology, so I will not waste any more time upon it.

BTW, you made a good video.

---edit----
I just realized that you question itself reflects a poor understanding of Christian beliefs; G-d did not kick Adam out because of Adam's "nature"; Adam & Eve aquired a sinful nature by committing the first sin.

A fine distinction which probably means nothing to a non-Christian, but an important one to Paul.

Answer 4

Yes, they were forced to leave the garden bc of their sin--namely Adam's. Leaving the garden was part of the curse that G-d placed not only on the land, but also to Adam himself. In Genesis G-d tells Adam 'Dust you are, and to dust you shall return' (Gen 3:17-19) The final curse upon man promised there would be an end of his toil and labor on the earth - but it was an end of death, not not an end of deliverance.

The curse of death shows that the result of Adam’s sin extended to the entire human race. Because of Adam, sin entered the world

Answer 5

I am a Christian.For me God is Jesus.Jesus forgives.As far as the G-d of the Old Testament. I don't believe he was the real thing. Really read your Bible,it's not the same person. Jesus is love and forgiveness.The G-d of the Old Testament was hateful,vengful,and spiteful. Not the same thing. The G-d in the Old Testament really sounds more like church leaders.I don't believe in original sin.Jesus died for us. I don't believe I was born with sin.

Answer 6

If you would take the time to read the bible, it tells you very plainly that God evicted them. And there was no sin until Adam and Eve committed the sin of disobedience, by eating of the forbidden fruit. Man was designed to live forever until this sin, which brought every sin and pestilence on the earth, so mankind himself is to blame, not God.

Answer 7

By trusting the enemy(shadim) rather than God, by trusting in the promise of "knowledge" offered by Satan to become like "gods", which instead led to death. As we can see Satan and the shadim are no gods either, though they claim to be. And yet Eve and Adam trusted him rather than God who said they would surely die. (spiritually as well as physically, physical death coming eventually as the wages of mistrust in God)

Genesis 17 To Adam He said, "Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, 'You must not eat of it,'
"Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat of it
all the days of your life.
It was definitely not the gardn of Eden He was talkng about.


As regards the curse of original sin inherited by all human beings, the Torah says:

Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.
Psalm 51:5

However as we become aware, we commit sin, however the stain or original sin or the knowledge of good and evil(loss of innocence) means that none of us is spared from death. The knowledge of evil attracts all men from the time they are aware of it, like a moth to the fire.

Answer 8

Not a Christian, but I like to think that God made them leave their Father's garden because they had become adults. They had learned all that their Father had to teach them. It was time to move on, knowing that their Father was always there for advice and counsel.

Similarly, Abraham left the land of Ur because it was time to move on knowing that God was there when needed. The Israelites had to leave Israel for slavery in Egypt knowing their God would look after them.

The Israelites had to leave Egypt knowing that their God would protect them.

The Israelites were dispersed to Babylon knowing their Father would always be with them.

Isn't that what Judaism is about? We must have the courage to move on to other places and experiences. God is always there for advice and counsel, but He wants us to take the first steps. We have to take the steps, but God is with us.

Shalom

.