What can be done about tipping discrepancies and dining out etiquette?

Question

There is a serious problem when it comes to racial/group differences in tipping.
It is not right that servers be treated horribly and not paid for their services.
It is also not right that a member of a certain group is looked down on because of what the majority does. However many times servers get disinheartened and start to do these things.
Unfortunately these two things happen very often. The only solution I can see is a better education about proper dining etiquette and tipping to the general public of different groups of people who commonly treat servers/bartenders inappropriately.
I really think there is something that needs to be done, because this cycle does nothing to ease racial tensions, it only makes them worse. Any ideas on what could be done to educate the general population?

i dont think you understand the service industry very well drbernice. The simple point is that people don't tip on the quality of service, and they should. I'm asking what can be done to educate people about how they are supposed to tip.

funny that the comment comes from someone named church... thats exactly the people i was referring to.
You get paid 2.13 an hour church. You think its fair that people should work for 2.13 an hour? not to add that most servers tip out 3% of what they sell to hosts/bussers, so if a table doesnt tip you- you pay to wait on that table. So you think its right that a server should pay to wait on you since you can't afford it. Heres the simple facts: If you cant afford to tip atleast 15% on what you order, you cant afford to order it.
HERE IS WHY: restaurants keep the price of food down by not paying their waitstaff hourly wages (2 dollars an hour usually covers taxes, most servers never get a paycheck). IF THE COST OF SERVICE WAS ADDED INTO THE BILL, THE COST OF YOUR BILL WOULD BE HIGHER.
Servers are working for you. They arent doing it out of fun, if you don't pay them because you "can't" afford it, event hough you could afford the $50 meal, then youre a selfish disgusting person.

apparently some people seem to think this question asked, "are you a cheap jerk who doesn't tip?"
If youre one of those evil people who doesnt tip on purpose, please don't respond to this question. Youre just a terrible person.

Answer 1

I use to be a server and I am afraid there is not much that can be done. There is no way that anyone living in the United States would not know about tipping etiquette.
Some people are self centered and only think about themselves. Others have no class that is why they choose to ignore tipping etiquette. I agree with your response that if you can't afford to tip then you can't afford to go out and eat. If you don't have money then you don't cheat someone else out of their money.

Your right there is an overall difference in tipping among racial groups. Fortunately the no class people of these groups don't represent all the people in these groups. No class people choose not to better themselves and blame everyone else instead.
How do you make someone have class? You can't.

Answer 2

I don't think this has to be rocket science. Servers choose to deal with the public in their positions. I don't think there's a major inequity regarding race where they are concerned. Most people tip based on how well they are taken care of when they eat out. Everyone who deals with the public is going to run into nasty people - it comes with the territory. But if servers allow can't distance themselves enough to bite their lips and get over it, they possibly could develop an attitude, I suppose. But, if that is the case, it is the server who needs more education in dealing with difficult people, and they need to learn not to take it personally. If they don't, they will certainly feel tipping discrepancies. Patrons are not going to base their gratuity on a base percentage although we're all familiar wth the standard guidelines. And, servers shouldn't expect patrons to excuse bad service because the server has a bad attitude, and they should expect to be paid based upon nothing but the quality of service they provide.

Answer 3

It's funny you mention tipping because we went to Barristers in Clayton and we used the entertainment book coupon and they charged us gratuity because we used a coupon. The gratuity they charged us was a whole dollar less than we were planning to tip. She lost a dollar because of that goofy rule.

We usually have a $20-$30 bill and always tip at least $5 and hardly ever more than $8. The lower tips go toward those who give us horrible service. (Drinks never refilled, order was wrong, salad came out the same time or after the dinner came out, it took forever for them to take the order, bring out the food...etc)

Answer 4

Do what is done in Europe...
the restuarant simply adds the "service charge" on the bill...
if you received really good service...simply round the total up to the nearest euro...
if it was only adequate...simply pay the bill as it is presented....

if adopted, it takes the personality, racial aspect, appropriateness out of the equation...it also balances out the slams with the deads and balances out the pooled monies ...the wait staff knows -pretty close-what their pay will be from week to week...

Answer 5

do like a lot of places do an add the tip right into the bill after the food is totaled up this is usually 15 to 18 %of the total bill

Answer 6

First off, I was a waiter then manager for a total of 12 years.
Tips are soley for 'good service' and is only that.
Any thing else is irrelevant. Any tipping for other than good service is not valid.

Anytime the service (tip) is automatically added, I automatically substract it, because if & when I tip its always in cash on the table and never part of the 'food ticket'.

Answer 7

i hear you about tipping, i understand the problem .. BUT i know that servers do not get much hourly pay, and that is the employer's fault not the customer. when i go to eat out, i do tip but resent it when i am told i have to give 15 per cent or more. i tip because i liked the service i got, and i can not afford 15 per cent all the time, i tip according to the service i get and what my wallet will allow me to. it should not be a race thing , i worked as a server in my younger years, and times i received tips and times i got none. it is not your right as a server to get tips.you are paid a hourly wage and tips are extra , in my opinion. there is not a server in this world that works for only tips. they get their hourly wage and tips are extra....please understand this. i know you think i am cheap maybe so, what money i have to spend is my choice, tip or not to tip is my choice.........some dinner houses add the tip to the bill. i will not be forced to pay for tips. [there is no law in the states making us tip] so i cross off the tip written and pay the bill and taxes required and leave the tip on the table for the server.............

Answer 8

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