Pro Life is actually pro death. An aborted fetus is not a human and leads to no death according to the Bible. However, the pro life stance is a pro death stance. By design, any birth is followed by a death. And frequently before the death, the human that is produced kills other humans, commits suicide, robs, steals, rapes, or does other hateful acts. It would have been better if these rapist, and murderers had been aborted. They would not have suffered a cruel life, and would have never existed if aborted according to the bible. (God himself uses abortion in the form of miscarriage, the fetus is not said to have been kill, it is said to not have been born.)
The Pro Choice stance allows society (the mother) to determine the viability and usefullness of any potential life.
Unless you believe that it is better to breed murderers and rapist, you must believe that it would have been better to identify and end the existance of these misfits prior to birth. Do you agree or not.
2006-09-24 13:00:13 · 25 answers · asked by Give me Liberty 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
So far, the pro lifers have agreed that they would rather bring a known murderer into the world than to end the existance of a fetus. That is the problem with their argument. Each fetus that lives will die no matter what thay say or do. And a certain portion of these fetuses will murder other humans. Rather than admit it is wrong to allow for the harmless ending of a fetuses existance, they are will to have you and I murdered.
2006-09-24 13:15:49 · update #1
There is not one pro life and death answer to this question that I have not refuted completely in the past. There is nothing in the Bible to support pro life. There is no common sense answer that supports pro life. And the Bible makes it clear that the pro lifers will be punished in hell for their misleading of the followers of Christ. Please click on the link to my home page and read what has been proven in the past before pasting any more nonsense as an answer on this page.
2006-09-24 17:35:24 · update #2
Desmartj wants to take away the right of poor women to choose abortion when they are raped by a murderer. She thinks that it is discrimination if I want poor women to have the same rights a rich women. Poor women have a brain, they know when to abort, when not to abort and why to abort. They are not the idiots that you imply. You should go on your knees and pray for forgivness for your attitude toward poor women. On this end of the argument I want them to have all the rights as other women.
2006-09-25 01:24:40 · update #3
Monica80-----
There is a 100% chance that some of the fetuses that you save will be murderers. It is a fact. And there is a chance that some will be saints. To simply give up and allow murderers to live because of your false beliefs leaves me as the target of your murderer.
2006-09-25 05:36:53 · update #4
Paulamlank and Deckape:
This is simple. If you have 100 abortions made before the first week, and those abortions cause no pain and end without killing a human then there is no harm. If on the other hand, you go against God's will and force the birth of unwanted children, then all the children will die at some point. There will be 100 deaths, plus the suffering of 100 unwanted children. To that total suffering you must add the children killed, parents killed, rapes and other harm done by the misfits in the group. So pro life leads to a 100% death rate plus a murder rate and a rape rate. It is insane to take the pro life position.
Of the aborted fetuses, if some were to be saints, don't you think that God would recreate them! Only a hateful God would do otherwise. And that is the difference between the pro life and the pro choice Gods. Yours is hateful, mine is loving.
2006-09-25 08:57:22 · update #5
Wow...will you marry me?!
2006-09-24 13:05:40 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 2⤋
no it isn't! and yes they are its scientifly (spelled wrong) proven that they are alive! and yes it does! The bible is great but i was just doing religioin and they said the bible is not the source of all religion! And the pope has said that abortion is murder (and the pope is Jesus's representor here on earth)! Also the bible says Though Shallt Not Kill and that murder!!! And what if your mother decided "usefullness" of you! You'd be dead!!!! Then where would you be to say all this!! When does the baby become alive? When its coming out of the womb? Then at what excact moment does it become from "a bunch of cells" to a living breathing human being?? And when did anyone get to decide when someone should die even if they believe that there life will suck? Its not anyones choice!!!! And according to your reasoning "And frequently before the death, the human that is produced kills other humans, commits suicide, robs, steals, rapes, or does other hateful acts" we should kill off the entire human race!!! none of us are perfect! we can't choose that these people should die because they MAY make it worse for the rest of us! Or they MAY make it much better (find a cure to cancer etc. etc. etc.)!!! oh go the site below so if you have any more debates i can answer to each and every one!
2006-09-25 14:27:20 · answer #2 · answered by Therese 3 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Then, according to you, man-kind should cease to exist. But lucky for the rest of us, who actually place a great deal of value on human life, simply disagree. These statements you make are only your opinion, not fact. In my opinion an aborted fetus is in fact murder, according to the Bible. And our laws are contradictory, that same fetus that a mother has the option to abort, if someone kills her and the fetus they can be charged with two murders. Just because the courts make a law doesn't make it right. The final judgment should come from the Bible.
And it is not so frequently that a person causes suffering before they die, far more lead productive and helpful lives.
And as for miscarriages, God is the best judge on that. He knows the future of us all.
And as for identifying the misfits prior to birth......... you're watching too many scifi movies.
2006-09-24 20:18:42 · answer #3 · answered by paulamlank 2 · 1⤊ 2⤋
I am personally offended by your statement - it is as if you are suggesting that the poorer and less fortunate people in our society (the ones that seek out abortions the most often) are the ones producing rapists, thieves, and murderers so we should encourage them to kill their children before they are born and commit these atrocities?? That is crazy. All children deserve the chance to be born and no one, society or the mother, should be deciding if their lives are worth allowing to continue or not before birth, even before the first choice or mistake has been made.
People keep acting as if by not allowing abortions to take place, a woman is losing out on a large choice - hello there was a choice long before the question of abortion came up - if you don't want to have children - learn about birth control (prevention) or even abstinence. Don't make babies and then kill them using the excuse that the baby might have been a murderer or a rapist! I hope no one supports the garbage you are spewing even if others answering on here are pro-choice for other reasons.
That's funny truelaw - you took my argument and tried to say that I'm saying what you're saying. I want you to NOT put down poor and minority women - it's not me doing it. You are making out like these are the only women are producing our murderers and rapists. You are not a nice person.
2006-09-24 20:11:31 · answer #4 · answered by desmartj 3 · 1⤊ 3⤋
The human male produces millions of sperms every day and each sperm consists of 23 chromosomes which are wasted during wet dreams or protected sex. The human female produces one egg in most cases per month. Each egg consists of 23 chromosomes as well. These eggs are wasted every month when it is not fertilised. Sex is therefore a process whereby these separate chromosomes are brought together to produce the 46 chromosomes in the human fetus. When we abort, we get rid of the 46 chromosomes so to speak. But in any case, nature wastes the separate chromosomes in the human eggs and sperms when there is no fertilisation. What seems to be the difference? Getting rid of the eggs and sperms or getting rid of the union-fetus seem to be the same to me. Except when we attach sentiments that the fetus is a divine creation and are therefore not mere sex germs.
Advances in cloning, stem-cell technology in what is called biotechnology would sooner or later obliterate our perception that humans are special creation.
No, we are not special, we are mere bags of chemicals moving about obeying the simple laws of nature.
2006-09-24 20:34:54 · answer #5 · answered by deleagbeyo 1 · 2⤊ 1⤋
No one can determine, just because of someones background and genes, who they will become in life... thus the mother determining the viability and usefulness of a life is not possible...she could make a guess at the child's chances but she could not know for sure how the child would end up, and what he or she would have to offer. Regardless even of this, our right to life is not dependant or related to what we have got to offer ie. our "usefulness".... everyone has a right to life, even the bad seeds... this doesnt mean i think it is better to breed murderers and rapists, it means i think that you cannot know beforehand that a potential murderer/rapist is going to be born.
Interesting stuff about the bible though
2006-09-24 20:08:28 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
In a world where people kill every moving life to eat or for pleasure,abortion is not a crime. If it saves the mother/father/ family from future miseries it is as good as saving lives. It is a choice one makes in desperate circumstances. That choice should be given especially to the mother. Imagine a child born with serious deformites or with aids; I think the suffering of the child is criminal.
2006-09-24 20:08:11 · answer #7 · answered by mahen 4 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Funny how guys don't mind telling a woman what they want her to do with her body while they are helping her to get pregnant, but, once the deed is done, suddenly, she's on her own.
If you can look at the belly of a woman who has just learned that she is pregnant, and predict what the child's life will be like, and what sort of person he/she will grow up to be, we need to talk. I could use some help with some lottery numbers.........
2006-09-24 20:17:55 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
I am outside this dated argumentive box
I am both
pro life: respect all life
pro choice: right to choose own action and own it
no picking sides, we have seen violent taliban and terrorist actions in the US with pro life fanatics blowing up clinics and assassinating doctors in cold blood
we have see pro choice people harrassing pro life people or other
this is a distraction and the real important issues are not being addressed
2006-09-24 20:05:08 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
Misfits there are so many and they come in all forms not just criminals, we can not distinguish what life one will have until its played out, but that has nothing to do with abortion now does it.
AS for abortion, I am for it and its the woman choice unless she is married.
2006-09-24 20:14:14 · answer #10 · answered by man of ape 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
How sorry I feel for you. You have been brainwashed to the point of no return. You like killing children and that is quite sick if you think about it. No wonder you think criminals should be spared death, you like the fact that they target innocent people. One day you may see the light, and if you do, let me know. I will forgive you for being an idiot.
2006-09-25 10:23:35 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋